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Hisec is safe... unless you fly a ~60 billion ISK Navy Raven

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#61 - 2013-09-15 17:26:14 UTC
I've seen some stupid come out in some threads, but gawd dayuum, I've only read half the posts in this one so far and It make me wanna burn my humanity membership card.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#62 - 2013-09-15 17:43:08 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've seen some stupid come out in some threads, but gawd dayuum, I've only read half the posts in this one so far and It make me wanna burn my humanity membership card.


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Tanthalassa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-09-15 18:12:25 UTC
What's the point in running lvl 4 missions in these expensive fits anyways?
Could simply multibox a few characters in junky fits, that could be more effective.

I guess some people cannot resist since they love those "purples."
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#64 - 2013-09-15 18:20:28 UTC
First thought: Autsch...
Second thought: Seriously? Blink

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-09-15 18:56:48 UTC
Lets pretend ur a big industrialist the multi boxes a mining fleet. Or make billions in the market. Ur wallet has 900 bil and u stopped really trying to make more because whats the point. Or hes too busy running his law firm in RL to play more than an hour or two a day.

Hes got the money to throw away and it has little meaning to him. U guys will cry about 60mil loss but its only a small nuisance to him

This player may not enjoy more efficiently running 2 bs missions. He enjoys having the most bling ship he can without hassle of multi boxing. U guys think hes a stupid eve player but hes already won eve or life and now hes playing pixel ships the way he wants not the way the forums say he should

Tldr : get some persective ur perception of eve is not everyones
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#66 - 2013-09-15 19:45:32 UTC
Loot fairy said yes for once.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#67 - 2013-09-15 20:02:53 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
A lot of jelly and butthurt in this thread. He bought the ship to use it and unlike 99% here can afford to do so.


Well I am sure several of us can buy more than one of those ships. Does not mean we find it useful or even smart P
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-09-15 21:03:49 UTC
Eraza wrote:
ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?

just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked
is there any legit, non-stupid use for them?


I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers .....
deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#69 - 2013-09-16 02:28:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.

We are the players.

So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.


It's dumb all around.


Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?

So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.

Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.

Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed.


A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?




I demand nothing.

I just can't help but notice that this wellspring from which all that is wrong with the game (AKA "highsec") is what makes nullsec so profitable to be in.

It's a kind of symbiosis that has developed.

What do people do in highsec? They make free easy ISK running incursions (and milking them) or missions. What do they do with that money? They buy stuff that comes from nullsec. From who? People who think highsec is all about carbears and earning ISK and want to go to nullsec because they are afraid someone in the forums will have a bad opinion of them.

What do they do out in nullsec? Farm. Just like they did in highsec. Only now they have the Nullsec Leet Card ("Never post in the forums without it") and can't be called a carebear in the forums.

So they farm these modules that are worth these heinous amounts of ISK and sell them to.....

people in highsec who run incursions and or missions.


If I were to really be demanding, it would be that people shut their pie holes long enough to realize the contradictions in their little dogmatic bubbles.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-09-16 02:37:36 UTC
... rabble, rabble.

Roll

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Alavaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2013-09-16 05:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria
Kitty Bear wrote:
Eraza wrote:
ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?

just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked
is there any legit, non-stupid use for them?

I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers .....
deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough

Top deadspace stuff is standard on supercarriers, but officer stuff is pretty much titans. Or mission-running ships in highsec, apparently.

I don't think purple weapons are worthwhile over T2 for almost all applications, since that prevents you from using T2 ammo, and getting bonuses from the X Specialization skill.


CFC fits for capitals are usually T2, though some faction mods are recommended for some ships (check the lossmails, some caps will have faction modules). We've seen some factioned-up PL carriers though.

Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.

Alavaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2013-09-16 05:29:47 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
Lets pretend ur a big industrialist the multi boxes a mining fleet. Or make billions in the market. Ur wallet has 900 bil and u stopped really trying to make more because whats the point. Or hes too busy running his law firm in RL to play more than an hour or two a day.

Hes got the money to throw away and it has little meaning to him. U guys will cry about 60mil loss but its only a small nuisance to him

This player may not enjoy more efficiently running 2 bs missions. He enjoys having the most bling ship he can without hassle of multi boxing. U guys think hes a stupid eve player but hes already won eve or life and now hes playing pixel ships the way he wants not the way the forums say he should

Tldr : get some persective ur perception of eve is not everyones

He should be protected more by ccp's npcs and game mechanics.

Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.

Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#73 - 2013-09-16 06:32:54 UTC
It cost 60 bil and do 900 dps...

Eos does more than that...EOS!!

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#74 - 2013-09-16 06:55:23 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
It cost 60 bil and do 900 dps...

Eos does more than that...EOS!!


But, 2070 DPS tank...

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#75 - 2013-09-16 07:09:43 UTC
Alavaria wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Eraza wrote:
ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?

just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked
is there any legit, non-stupid use for them?

I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers .....
deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough

Top deadspace stuff is standard on supercarriers, but officer stuff is pretty much titans. Or mission-running ships in highsec, apparently.

I don't think purple weapons are worthwhile over T2 for almost all applications, since that prevents you from using T2 ammo, and getting bonuses from the X Specialization skill.


Depends on how smart is the guy who decides what to buy.

I have several deadspace shield boosters on several ships (and much more). I could buy the 1.5B ones or 200M ones that require a tiny CPU more, with the same huge other stats. I went for the latter, nobody is going to gank a ship with a 200M shield booster, dread guristas other stuff worth 50M instead of the 400M perfectly identical Caldari Navy stuff and so on.
Alavaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2013-09-16 07:18:49 UTC
Using an X-type hardener is top end. A b-type is much cheaper

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#77 - 2013-09-16 10:46:09 UTC
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-09-16 11:19:13 UTC
posting in thread where space-poor players discussing space-rich players Cool

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