Warfare & Tactics

I'd go three neuts three AC's for fitting reasons.

Then you can slap a 400mm plate on there and a DDA. Ac's should just be loaded with barrage and are basically just there to do SOMETHING with those slots.

Guaranteed to rip most stuff its size appart

Rockets can be made to work if you've got good fitting skills, but the Dragoon's tight on CPU. I was able to do three M4 neuts and 3 T2 roccket launchers, but I had to step down to a meta scrambler and tungsten armor plate - and that's with near-perfect fitting skills, so it may be even tougher for newer players to manage.

I love the dragoon and fly one close to what Garviel recommended. If you MUST use launchers you can down shift your tank fittings to accomodate it, but personally I like the AC varient as damage is not bonused anyway and the weapons don't use cap. Against ships like the tristan I usually use them as anti-drone weapons. The only ships I don't like to fight are minmatar assault frigs and missle kiters. Pretty much every blaster/pulse laser ship destroyer and below is a light snack. Its fun to watch their box turn from red to yellow and cake walking the rest of the fight to your opponet crying in local about the fight being unfair.

Ya you're right it doesn't even matter cuz it's not bonused so I could just grab 125mms with barrage and kill drones

It is not that they are a terrible idea as they are not as practical as a neut. A neut begins to drain the target's capacitor on activation, reguardless of the size of the other ship's capacitor. A NOS, with the new changes is better than before, but it still requires you to have less capacitor by amount than your opponet before it begins to function. This means that putting a medium NOS on a frigate will not do anything unless your cruiser has less in its capacitor than the frigate, in which case your probably already in trouble. A medium neut on the other hand will likely wreck its day. The place where NOS start getting useful is when you frequently fight larger ships so you will see them on frigates alot more post 1.1 changes since they can get a boost if they are NOSing a larger target or one that has a larger capacitor (which is frequently the case). A cruiser or larger is more likely to fight same sized or smaller hulls more frequently where the NOS is taking up a slot and fitting space that ends up wasted. If you have the room for a capacitor booster your alot better of fitting it and a rack of neuts so your ready for all occasions.

If you are relying on EFT or another of the fitting programs saying by fitting the NOS you are magically cap stable or nearly cap stable remember that it is giving you stats based on the NOS being active on a valid target where it can be permantly active. Unless your going up against battleships or larger this is probably not going to happen alot.

I also had another question: Since I would already have like the energy system skills and primary training for Logistics ships done, could I easily hop into a Guardian too to diversify my playing time as well? Seems logical. How good are Augors and Guardians in PVP?

Logi are just about the most powerful ships in the game.

You would be surprised.

Last time i went out a Retri and a Coercer went for me.

[Dragoon, Dragoon solo high skills]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
150mm Light Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

11.3K EHP, Neuts 25 cap per second, 183 drone DPS with hobs.

Even with all of it's modules off, an Algos will be neuted to 0 cap in 20 seconds by this. Only way the Algos is going to kill ths ship before being capped out is if it can put out 540DPS, which it can't. No brawling destroyer or frigate is going to be able to maintain cap under this kind of pressure, which means that even if things go south for the Dragoon it can warp out safely because the target won't have cap to hold point

Coercer neuted out in 28 seconds assuming it isn't firing it's cap hungry guns or using MWD or Point

Cormorant gets 22 seconds of cap if it doesn't fire guns

And frigates will go down even faster.


The only real weakness the dragoon has is fighting multiple people solo without capping out, and that nobody else wants to fight you solo.

As you progress, look into the Cruor and Ashimmu pirate faction ships.