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Triage Thanny Fits
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Jaiiny
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-09-13 09:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaiiny
Hi Guys,

I know that the Archon is better at triage than the Thanny, but the Thanny is what I am stuck with for now.

So I am looking for some nice triage fits please. I was going to go with 2 local reps, 2 remote and 1 cap transfer, but the more I look around I see single rep triple remote rep fits.

So I am just looking for some advice please.

Thank you
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-13 09:54:14 UTC
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.
Infiltrator2112
Untitled Goose Corporation
#3 - 2013-09-13 11:39:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Infiltrator2112
First the mandatory part in this kind of threads:
If you have to ask how to fit a Capital, you shouldn't be flying one.
If your corp/alliance does not have a capital doctrine or can help you with the fit you don't need a Capital(for combat).

And now the (hopefully) helpful part:
Standard combat-triage is dual-rep, dual EANM, T2-Triage with 3 reps+1 transfer, rest is cap-recharge.
Drugs are mandatory as well.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#4 - 2013-09-13 11:50:51 UTC
Infiltrator2112 wrote:
First the mandatory part in this kind of threads:
If you have to ask how to fit a Capital, you shouldn't be flying one.
If your corp/alliance does not have a capital doctrine or can help you with the fit you don't need a Capital(for combat).

And now the (hopefully) helpful part:
Standard combat-triage is dual-rep, dual EANM, T2-Triage with 3 reps+1 transfer, rest is cap-recharge.
Drugs are mandatory as well.

Don't forget your Damage Control II

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Infiltrator2112
Untitled Goose Corporation
#5 - 2013-09-13 12:41:10 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Infiltrator2112 wrote:
First the mandatory part in this kind of threads:
If you have to ask how to fit a Capital, you shouldn't be flying one.
If your corp/alliance does not have a capital doctrine or can help you with the fit you don't need a Capital(for combat).

And now the (hopefully) helpful part:
Standard combat-triage is dual-rep, dual EANM, T2-Triage with 3 reps+1 transfer, rest is cap-recharge.
Drugs are mandatory as well.

Don't forget your Damage Control II


You don't fit any Damage Control. I've seen fits with 1 EANM+DCU instead of the 2 EANMs but the later one is generaly considered superior.
Sharaar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-09-14 21:48:43 UTC
Cross train into archon. You don't require BS 5 anymore. It won't take you long to cross train. 1 or 2 EANM. No DC unless you're refitting.
Sharaar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-09-14 21:52:12 UTC
Onictus wrote:
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.

Faction plates? Umm... What?
are34
New Eden Corporation 98773700
New Eden Alliance 99013620
#8 - 2013-09-16 04:15:58 UTC
if you are set on using a thanatos and eager to use it, i would go with 2 local reps forsure, 2 eanm the rest of your mids and lows should be cap rechargers and cap power relays. your highs are a bit of a picke, forsure you will need 2 remote reps and a triage module, because of powergrid ive seen people do silly thing such as, 2 smartbombs, i think can fit a cap transfer?? or even nos and or neuts, however you do it is going to be sub optimal when compared to an archon.

the biggest thing for you to remember is that the fleet you drop this with will need to be able to kill the other guys still, if u can tank all day but not kill anything eventually you will die ><
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-09-16 04:36:01 UTC
Sharaar wrote:
Onictus wrote:
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.

Faction plates? Umm... What?


What never had to tank a doomsday?
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#10 - 2013-09-16 06:17:50 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Sharaar wrote:
Onictus wrote:
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.

Faction plates? Umm... What?


What never had to tank a doomsday?


Would you not just use an Armour Layering Membrane?
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-16 09:47:11 UTC
Andrew Indy wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Sharaar wrote:
Onictus wrote:
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.

Faction plates? Umm... What?


What never had to tank a doomsday?


Would you not just use an Armour Layering Membrane?


A what? Need to be passive, triage carriers tend to have cap issues. Just running the local reports smokes your cap.

That is a refit on the fly thing, usually you just run eanms.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#12 - 2013-09-18 03:04:46 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Andrew Indy wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Sharaar wrote:
Onictus wrote:
That depends on what you are doing, there isn't a best, there its.a best for the job, and that can vary.

Tank is dual rep sometimes eanm, sometimes faction plates, CCC rigs, and the best highs for the job.

Faction plates? Umm... What?


What never had to tank a doomsday?


Would you not just use an Armour Layering Membrane?


A what? Need to be passive, triage carriers tend to have cap issues. Just running the local reports smokes your cap.

That is a refit on the fly thing, usually you just run eanms.


Armour Layering Membrane are a passive mod that adds a set % of armour so they work better than a plate on a Capital where the base armour is huge, EANM are much better when you are running or receiving reps, less so against doomsday as they add less buffer.
Jon Matick
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-09-18 03:57:55 UTC
It's what? a week to train archon now if you can fly a thanny?
Do so...

My Blog:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Capt Retard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-09-18 09:04:47 UTC
Sharaar wrote:
Cross train into archon. You don't require BS 5 anymore. It won't take you long to cross train. 1 or 2 EANM. No DC unless you're refitting.



Yes, our alliance takes Archon 3 over any other carrier - its just better - capping range, fitting and tank wise.

Thereafter - Thanny only at V, chimera only in shield fleets, never nidhogger.

Key thing about remote repping is recapping others for their triage cycle. The range is the issue. Ive bleated on about this often enough. Dont waste time on a triage Thanny - its a stepping stone to the lovely Nyx. Triage and Archon go together.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-09-18 19:23:24 UTC
Capt ****** wrote:


Key thing about remote repping is recapping others for their triage cycle. The range is the issue. Ive bleated on about this often enough. Dont waste time on a triage Thanny - its a stepping stone to the lovely Nyx. Triage and Archon go together.



The triage is handy for rep ops, when you aren't likely to see direct combat.

Otherwise yeah, there is no real reason not to fly the Archon given the choice, I have my thanny from back before DDAs. Not a mistake I plan on making twice.
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-09-18 20:38:25 UTC
are34 wrote:
if you are set on using a thanatos and eager to use it, i would go with 2 local reps forsure, 2 eanm the rest of your mids and lows should be cap rechargers and cap power relays. your highs are a bit of a picke, forsure you will need 2 remote reps and a triage module, because of powergrid ive seen people do silly thing such as, 2 smartbombs, i think can fit a cap transfer?? or even nos and or neuts, however you do it is going to be sub optimal when compared to an archon.

the biggest thing for you to remember is that the fleet you drop this with will need to be able to kill the other guys still, if u can tank all day but not kill anything eventually you will die ><



A smart bomb is not a bad thing. You can easily clear drones with it, ether from you or fleet mates (if they fly close).

Why wouldn't you use a Reactive Armor Hardener + EANM? You would start with lower resists but would eventually get better. A carrier has the tank to give the time for the Reactive Hardener to adjust. Cap usage is nothing, if you have been neuted to where it has been turned off your dead anyway. Most gangs/fleets would be in some sort of doctrine so they should all be flying the same ship and ammo. If your against missiles then your set, only one damage type so you get the full 60% without a stacking penalty.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#17 - 2013-09-18 22:38:20 UTC
As everyone else has said the archon is so much better than the thanny for triage its hardly even comparable.


If you must fly the thanny I'd stick with the same fit as an archon, even without the bonus to energy transfer you need them or you will never be able to cap up your partner, in which case you are basically resigning yourself to die after 1 cycle. In order to overcome the much weaker capacitor of the thanny you will need a proper triage clone (genolians + 5% cap hardwires) and mindflood or your cap will just disappear, you probably still want this in an archon to be honest but you can get by without.