EVE General Discussion

I don't care what style of corp you like and neither does the alliance that won't consider your corp for recruitment.

I'm not arguing that it is better for the corp to be large, I am arguing that alliances want to deal with a small number of corporations. As long as there are enough medium-sized corporations out there (and there are) this means the alliance has no need to go to the trouble of dealing with your 20man corp.

For an alliance small corporations create a disproportionally large amount of administrative overhead and drama. That's why alliances prefer large corporations. If you don't want to play in a large corporation then that's your choice and perfectly fine by me.

(Also of the 200 people in a corp approximately 195 don't need any corp roles so I don't buy your "corp theft" argument.)

Why won't a company give me a nice good job before I graduate?

You can easily go in and start SBUing systems. EVE is a sandbox.

Having small corps isn't always a problem. A headache, sure, but it shouldn't be a 'problem'. If you have trouble holding on to space without forced conscription, you're on pretty shaky ground to begin with.

@Vera Very true.

R&D and manufacturing groups have to stay small for security purposes, but they're some of the healthiest things to have in nullsec. Yet, at the same time, people have this unhealthy obsession with calling them 'freeloaders'.

Small corps, especially those with well skilled industrial development staff, can mean locally manufactured (and less expensive) supplies compared to Jump crews to move freighters.. only they're usually just thrown into unstable regions and fleeced as an improvised defense force. You'd get bitchy as someone who wants pvp to be told to shut up and mine at the drop of a hat every day. Works both ways, really. That's when you have problems with bitchy small corps.

There's too much to develop. R&D takes towers, space, and isk. Manufacturing needs time to accrue resources, which in turn needs teams of 'carebears' grinding up rocks which they are all too happy to do. That means guns, ships, ammunition, fits, all available on-site at the nearest station at the drop of a hat. Having the on-hand material resources to replace entire fleets already on the market beats having to JF replacement doctrine ships once a week.

Yet instead you've got maybe 1 guy with a bunch of alts (usually the CEO or director) out of every 2-300+ people supporting the critical industrial backbone, and that's usually just moongoo monopolizing, JF shipping, and capital ship production. And why is that? Because industrialists are carebears, carebears are freeloaders, and freeloaders should be kicked out? So says the 200-1000 man pvp corp CEO holding the space about the smattering of 'freeloading' small industrial corps.

Therein lies the rub. PVP corps work great big. Lots of gangs, fleet participation, roams, ops, etc. Industrial corps work best small, yet mixing big and small corps together creates the conflict.


Solutions? Why do "carebear" corps have to stay small?
Improving the security surrounding R&D and manufacturing is probably the biggest issue. Changes that help management build barriers against tampering so that industrial corps can get big without massive security holes (oops, did I just cancel that Nyx job?).

Corp management as a whole is a mess when it comes to compartmentalization. If you've got access to one thing, you've got it all, book, bag, and library.


TL:DR, I think I just established the correlation to why small corps have a hard time getting into nulsec as a result of CCP's horribad corporation management console.

Or just lazy alliances that prefer to drop 50 TCU's at once and ninja stations rather than have a good fight eh? Although to be fair its more a result of the rest of EvE nullseccers being pussies and no one would have turned up to stop you grinding them anyway.

i think attitudes would change very quickly once it became a viable and useful option

i mean, goonswarm saw a spreadsheet and now they're renting space

She'll try to scam you.

The reason why smaller corps have a hard time is because they are small. And insignificant.
The space rightfully belongs to somebody and it's their right to do with it as they please.
What you or anybody else wants is completely irrevelant.

not necessarily, Vale of the Silent is rental space and scamming prospective renters is not cool.

(and you get a commission for finding new renters)

Gotta love all the people in big alliances with their 'It's only fair' comments.

The way sovereignty works is incredibly flawed and encourages only a handful of people to experience the majority of Eve. Any small corp has to lick the boots of an alliance or they will have a hundred carriers dropped on them whenever they try to take part. This is why everyone is crammed into the tiny high sec systems.

i'll trust sources that can drop towers thanks