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[Service] ♥ Alice's 3rd Party Trading ♥

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Drama Prince
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#141 - 2013-09-14 13:53:21 UTC
Here we see another lie. I was in station and in my pod.

2nd of all this Drama Prince has only super carrier skill, so i cant use Hic. I can prove with my api.

Well thank god i have screenshot, and allready reported a scam. It was well planed it.

Waiting for respond of CCP.

Protel tenx for showing it was a planed scam.
Drama Prince
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2013-09-14 13:56:28 UTC
And for the record, i was a buyer. Alice got my 24B and logged off.
Tav Mena
Orphans of Charon
#143 - 2013-09-14 14:07:33 UTC
I was the Aeon pilot, and this was clearly a scam.

That's more or less what happened to us as well. We were in a group chat with the buyer, met at the safe point Alice 'confirmed' that she had the ISK, I vacated the Aeon, and the buyer took possession of it... and then Alice was suddenly offline and the 'buyer' was gone.

We never saw a single ISK.
xNEWxTROLLxHEREx
Doomheim
#144 - 2013-09-14 14:36:10 UTC
Tav Mena wrote:
We never saw a single ISK.


Just like we will never see these posts stick in this thread.
Iroh Mishi
Orphans of Charon
#145 - 2013-09-14 14:52:32 UTC
Proteles Cristatus wrote:
Actually, thank you Alice for doing such a stellar job with my Aeon purchase..

I was the buyer of the Aeon from Iroh, we organised the Aeon sale at a safespot, as I was warping off to get safe, Drama Prince uncloaked in a HIC, luckily I got away due to two mwd pulses.

Stupidly, they hadn't received their isk for the super trade when Drama Prince decloaked (Can only assume it was a mess up) and therefore did not receive the ISK for the Aeon sale, and that ISK was transferred back to me.

+1 To Alice's services, proof that she is very fair.
Chat logs available on request (As I can not post them here)


Retok Tazinas was the "buyer" of our Aeon. Drama Prince was not a party or in system.

I will say that everyone was extremely polite. Both Retok and Alice were very professional and courteous during the entire transaction. They even blocked me immediately after taking possession of the ship and not transferring the money to prevent any awkwardness or heated words being exchanged.

Mainly I am disappointed in myself. If I were eating the loss alone, it would be much easier to deal with than the potential ramifications it has for my corp and small indy alliance taking such a hit. I like to think I'm a nice, generous, trusting guy -- and I have a tendency to project those attributes onto others. But this is clearly the type of situation that can arise when one has that style of gameplay.

If nothing else, I hope I can serve as a cautionary tale about this particular side of EVE, and prevent others from falling victim to this scam.
Moirai Thunder
Doomheim
#146 - 2013-09-14 14:59:27 UTC
I love how CCP are essentially letting these scams occur.... Roll
Lokitoki81
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
#147 - 2013-09-14 18:14:47 UTC
Alice Saki
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
Likes received: 87,755

87,755 ?!?!?!

What black magic is this?

I dont know you but 87000 likes must count for some rep right ? Never seen that before, pretty cool
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#148 - 2013-09-14 18:20:20 UTC
Lokitoki81 wrote:
Alice Saki
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
Likes received: 87,755

87,755 ?!?!?!

What black magic is this?

I dont know you but 87000 likes must count for some rep right ? Never seen that before, pretty cool


the likes and get likes thread.

I personally like Alice but i cant say weither or not the service is legit, only that Alice is a nice person on the forums.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."

Tav Mena
Orphans of Charon
#149 - 2013-09-15 03:08:02 UTC
Where as I can't speak to her mien on the forums... only the fact that her service is a scam.

;)
SilentKat
Tau Royal Civil Service
#150 - 2013-09-15 05:33:42 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Thank you ISD/CCP

Business As Usual Again.




I have never seen ISD/CCP devs support someone like this before. She offers a service but then they remove any post relating to the credibility of the service she provides. I understand those post may contain chat logs or screenshots of wallets but how else can you expose a someone taking advantage of the way ccp designed supercaps? I am not flaming her in anyway. Good on her for exploiting the rules. I hope Iroh's post remains in the thread to serve as a warning to others.
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#151 - 2013-09-15 06:17:24 UTC
SilentKat wrote:
Alice Saki wrote:
Thank you ISD/CCP

Business As Usual Again.




I have never seen ISD/CCP devs support someone like this before. She offers a service but then they remove any post relating to the credibility of the service she provides. I understand those post may contain chat logs or screenshots of wallets but how else can you expose a someone taking advantage of the way ccp designed supercaps? I am not flaming her in anyway. Good on her for exploiting the rules. I hope Iroh's post remains in the thread to serve as a warning to others.



You post here that you have said logs available to anyone who asks for them. that is how you get around that rule. They are not protecting alice, only following the rules they put down.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."

Drama Prince
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#152 - 2013-09-15 06:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Drama Prince
Job Valador wrote:
SilentKat wrote:
Alice Saki wrote:
Thank you ISD/CCP

Business As Usual Again.




I have never seen ISD/CCP devs support someone like this before. She offers a service but then they remove any post relating to the credibility of the service she provides. I understand those post may contain chat logs or screenshots of wallets but how else can you expose a someone taking advantage of the way ccp designed supercaps? I am not flaming her in anyway. Good on her for exploiting the rules. I hope Iroh's post remains in the thread to serve as a warning to others.



You post here that you have said logs available to anyone who asks for them. that is how you get around that rule. They are not protecting alice, only following the rules they put down.



Yes they are fallowing the rule, what eventually lead to a big scam. These guys scammed 3-4 players in 1 night. Getting 2 aeons and 50 bils. I believe that CCP should make some changes here. Coz they are sending a wrong msg here: "go scam ppl, and ull get a way with it" WE DO SUPPORT U, as they showed it here.
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#153 - 2013-09-15 12:13:49 UTC
I would like to buy a Nyx for my wormhole, neither Chribba or Grendel seems interested in the task. How you get in in heres your problem, but I will gladly pay large sums of isk.

Event Organizer of EVE North East

Deep DonkeyPunch
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#154 - 2013-09-15 12:50:03 UTC
pastebin faggots

#freebarracuda #freedeesnider

Drama Prince
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2013-09-15 12:58:36 UTC
Deep DonkeyPunch wrote:
pastebin faggots



Why? U realy need to be this way?
Cocomaloco
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#156 - 2013-09-15 13:25:47 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Thank you ISD/CCP

Business As Usual Again.



I hope CCP/ISD's are atleast getting their well deserved cut of this partnership business here Pirate
Tav Mena
Orphans of Charon
#157 - 2013-09-15 15:05:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tav Mena
I can't see why anyone would remove our posts on the topic. We are neither flaming nor rude. Our posts are topical, we are speaking to the veracity of Alice Saki's claims re: the business that is the topic of this thread. A GM should be able to verify the order of events easily enough, that Tav Mena jumped into system in the Aeon, that he ejected and another pilot boarded, and that no ISK was transferred to him, nor anyone in his Alliance by Alice Saki. They should also be able to verify that Drama Prince was not in system at the time (At least as far as my recollection of local goes).

There is no slander, name calling or trolling going on here. Just a genuine, first hand account of Alice's untrustworthy behavior.
Proteles Cristatus
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#158 - 2013-09-15 15:44:34 UTC
This is all genuine and pretty looking, however Tav and Iroh and friends were a very professional corp team and will defend this till death. I am quite happy to upload the chatlogs on request, please don't hesitate to mail me asking for them.

That is all from me.
Ashton Odunen
A BARON FREIGHT
#159 - 2013-09-15 15:49:56 UTC
The more this goes on it looks like those guys and the judge guy are after you, Alice.
It also looks like this was an elaborate attempt to raise free funds from people taking their side and feeling sorry for them being scammed, and I think is far worse than just a corporate or infiltration theft as its far more manipulative.

I'd like to see a copy of your combat logs and chat logs prot, if that is ok?
Tav Mena
Orphans of Charon
#160 - 2013-09-15 15:59:41 UTC
I should certainly hope that any normal human being would feel some sympathy for the fact that we were cheated out of 26 billion isk, but no, we don't expect to ever see any money over this. At this point we are just hoping that at best we can help prevent someone else from falling into the same trap.