EVE General Discussion

Basically the GMs have taken it upon themselves to reword/reinterpret the TOS to include provisions against impersonating or falsely representing another character, corporation, alliance, or "group". Among other things this causes difficulty when players try to scam by claiming that they're alts of a more reputable character. The situation has been made worse by the GMs trying to "clarify" that even claiming to be an alt of another character, even if true, is considered impersonation under this clause and is equally punishable.

What this guy said. Its just a bunch of entitled whiners trying to get worked up over nothing. Its the same as it always was, just worded differently.

I swear even since incarna the entire eve gaming population is like a fat cheetoh dust covered lynch mob running around looking for a witch to burn at the stake.

CCP makes one mistake (Captains crapper) and apologises for it, eve players think every minor issue since then is something they should all cry together over.

I'm a forum alt.

oh ****, now I'm going to get banned for ToS violation.

This sucks :\

Isn't it bottle cap in your eye? How much did you pay for it?

They said nothing changed but that's not really the case. A GM specifically clarified that, say, recruitment scamming for Goons when you're not a goon was no longer allowed. Stuff like that has been going on forever and I have never heard of someone catching a ban for it. Impersonating a player, say making Doris Dents. would always have caught you a forced rename, but saying you're an alt of Mittani give me roles or whatever is a scam as old as EVE and has never been problematic before.

Wait so I'm in breach of ToS?

Nah. There's something probably bannable about doing that.

Yup.

If one hasn't truly done anything 'wrong', and has nothing at all to hide, why be so panicked and loud ? Hmmmm ?

So what you're saying is that Hilmar is really Obama?

You're wrong. CCP says there's no worries because they're not actively enforcing the TOS. But the TOS now, without question, prohibits that type of game play. What people are debating is having the TOS, like the sword of Damocles, hanging over their heads and left at the whim of GM mood and opinion to be interpreted.

That there are people who would accept the current situation as a "no worries" situation leaves the rest of us to wonder if they've been drinking the CCP koolaid.

Considering what has been said by GMs that "we've had this policy for a long time, it's just never been in the TOS", and that it is now in TOS only means one thing: CCP is covering its butt legally for the mass bans they're about to hand out.

I'm sorry you and people like you can't see this for what it is. Yes, the TOS has a termination of service for any reason clause. But there is precedent already set in game with a long history of this type of game play being allowed. There's obviously been a discussion at CCP about this issue and they felt the need to add this specific prohibition of game play. They're worried that if they ban the wrong person or group of people there could be legal issues. So, we get the new TOS verbiage which now specifically prohibits this long standing game play. It's obvious to me, they plan to curtail this type of game play regardless of GM assurances since a post by a CCP employee is not CCP policy. The TOS is.