Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What is WiS?

I don't disagree with stations being social areas, just trying to give wow and GW2 players something that feels like home so they will turn to the darks side :P that and i'd leave first person shooter to dust, the last thing id want is to take any of dusts thunder... it doesn't have much atm in the global community

That's a whole lot of smoke you are blowing up our asses here. You need to step away from that vat of Hyperbole Helper and join us in the real world. I'm not saying that you are totally wrong (the removal of Learning Skills, Can Flipping and Tiericide most recently), but this Ragnarok End Times vision you try to paint for Eve Online's future is rather laughable to say the very least. I've been playing this gmae for a very long time, and believe me when I say, you are not the first person, nor the last who paints the future of Eve in pretty pastel colors. Two things here:

1) You, like many before you, still don't understand what birthed Eve and the reasons behind it's inception.

2) Your points on WoW were sometimes contradictory to one another.

In either case, Wow and Eve cannot be compared to one another. They can't. It's like comparing McDonald's to Taco Bell. They have their good points and their bad points, and they both appeal to a different group of people. McDonald's can't serve burgers on crunchy taco shells, because they know that no one will buy them. But are they going to try and come up with ways to draw in other people, maybe a Taco burger? Yep, that's the price of progress.

And for god's sake, the WiS crap? Please, find the nearest airlock with that crap. Press the button and shove it out. If I wanted to walk around with an avatar, I'll play WoW.

I'm assuming this is not WiS... https://www.google.ca/search?q=WiS&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:%7Breferrer:source%7D&ie=UTF-8&oe=&gws_rd=cr&ei=pL4zUtzMB4L62QWeuYGgBg

I think this thread is becoming too narrow minded, I stated WoW as a baseline for a player count comparison as I'm under the impression that they have the largest. What I'm asking is how to pull more players into the Eve Universe from the planet earth and though that may include allot of WoW players, it is in no means limited to it. When compared to the world, WoW is quite small and there is always the new generations coming after us old farts to think about snagging.

Major trials of eve that keeps players out:
1. It's not well known
2. It's hard, especially starting out
3. It is pay to play even with the plex system
4. It is limited to PC and PS3 (atm PS4 is suspected of being backwards incompatible and no one from ccp or playstation has confirmed dusts future compatibility)
5. Requires large commitments
6. Lacks many of the features typical mmo's that players are attracted to

to make eve bigger ccp should make it more noob friendly, make every ship pretty much the same for balancing reason, introduce more elite items, more pve contents, more protection for carebear etc etc.

they are already doing this and the game is getting worse, so no thanks.
bring back the first release of eve that was wildly unbalanced and much more fun

Add stuff that have nothing to the spaceship part. It is very shocking to say, and an outlandish idea for some of the player (like most).
They could talk with Sony about borrowing Polyphony to make a racing part of New Eden, which could get some people in to the game, and see how many stays for either the racing or the space ships.
Adding other genre's to the game that still keeps the realism could bring in new people, and get some old to stay because there is something else to do when you just don't know what to do.

A PC port is really needed, as some people will abandon the consoles after we have seen what Microsoft and Sony wants to do with their consoles.

True, with tierecide and V3 we are almost there... next should be WiS.

Doublepost

That's not so say I don't think some expansion can be done by utilising WiS. However it will have to fit in with the rest of EVE, Bars where you can make shady deals about smuggling boosters, or poker tables where you can bet your assets would be much better than some FPS/racing/whatever.

(I would love for Mittens to bet the whole of Deklein sov on a full house).

wonder how many of those 32 million where people who got banned b/c of their behavior.
7.1 billion people in the world. of those 32 million play LOL, yeah right. as I stated above. Banned players with more than one account. Just as EVE has how many accounts, but you could probably really reduce that by a third or more for all the people who have more than 1 account.

THese are just words . . . if the words offend you . . . consider reducing the ammount of coffee powder in you coffee or consulting an Hindu Buddhist or similar.

I am shouting cause i love EVE.

Literacy instructions (we are not all Einsteins ):
- "Idea".
- - Sub branch to "Idea" ( thus it is realted to above idea ).
- New different unrealted (unless stated otherwise) "Idea".


- Free 3 months . . .
- Offer an limited character-based-time pull back of trained skills ( > 3 (less then 3) ) month char[acter] can undo all skills and gain them as applyable sp (skill points).
- The chat system is almost like getting waterboarded ( i think . . . ) :
Look . . . you gain friends , have fun, talk allot, lols and fun . . THEN THE [censored] interface forgets all your "chat locations" when the pilot uses the "close all windows button" . . and it is not just your end . . . countless pilots disapear and never return to a chat due to same flaw . . . This error is DEVISTATING FOOLS. auto-SAVE ALL CHATS YOU EVER [censored] ENTERED.
- Create an interactable branched-holgraphic-interface that shows all the various stages of the tutorial program; thus, a pilot can view and interact with said tutorial to that end of having access to a certain point in training . . . this reduces frustration brought about by various external phenomina. As is the pilot has to migrane through an beautiful yet flawed long trail of "guessing where it is AT" whilest the interactable holographic version would give the pilot way more pc to brain bandwidth via eyes instead of reading and guessing where that last "training step was" that leads to frustration.
- Do not understimate the hatrid that can be milked outof an pilot that is monitored too much ( add 5 minute lag from pilot's action until "you" see it ) .
- Get a friggin pet-buddhist for the local ccp corporate housings; thus, eve-crew can have direct access to alternate-phycologists that help employees deal with fame / ego / etc (and offers access instant-advice); moreover, the ccp-crew does not have to fear the inveitable brain damaging "subscription of pills" that prevents the seeking of help. ( u have no ******* idea what u r missing fools ).
- Stop fracking reality : there are quite a number of events that break reality . . it can damage the role play experience . . im not saying reinvent stuff... just smooth out some rough edges. Add a single line / phrase explination . . . such as an Dungeon Master would do in an Roleplaying-Dice-Board game.
- Remove lingusitic bias that is dominent in eve ; you (pilots) literally are told to go [censored] your self if you do not talk the [censored] of [censred] language English.
- Stop banning Evil players ( not bots nor isk related ) . . . Good just redefines an "Evil" over time to support its own existance (in short). Thus, we would wind up with a player base that . . .well . . it is obvious. Hey, maybe people are just evil cause they keep getting into these (banned) situations and CONSTANT SOCIAL isolation.
- Get Aurora more active, let her/him tell the pilot what the " [censored] is upp " when a pilot is passing an line (defined by the e.u.l.a.), and spitting on it . . way-before the ccp-staff gets at it. (not everybody is literate you [censored] self righteous isolated pocket groups of pc [censored] . . . there is a huge world out there and our pc loveing social pocket player base is minsiscule; thus, we cannot get bigger than W.O.W. with[out] opening our [censored] perception and eyes . . . to that end of making eve adaptable for EVERYONE.
- The "War System" is gotten outof hand . . . do not change it . . . perchance, offer an way outof that situation. Consider that number of rookies that get "decked" for weeks due to so phycological-vampires seeking their dose . .
- - War solutions could be based on statndings with the local system owner or one of the 4 main-factions; such as, a corporation that has very good standings with Faction or Corporation of a faction that is related to the (4 main facitons) . . . couls seek shellter and "artilery" backup from in space stations that have high enough relation standings.
- - the plus is an smoothing of reality . .
- - the plus is a bunch of people that join Eve just to chat and have fun with an occasional outing for rocks . . . yet they are almost all sistematically located and decked via war decleration.
- - Moreover, people are not socializing within corporations for they tend to go of and make their own 1 man corporation due to the [censored] war deck issue. A / This lack of socialzing will reduce the spread of the word of eve via people that have a pleasent experience socializing in eve. Thus, less subscribers cause the social system is messed up.

[wing 2]

DId i ever mention how awsome everything else is in Eve?...no? Well it is.

- Make a light version of W.O.D. such that W.O.D. would slowlly expand . . . then have each new pilot begin her/his game on the surface of an W.O.D. planet or similar
- - Is it a singular house that the pilot owns on a select planet ? 4 walls, roof, floor, broken T.v. (OR not!!) and the Email / Evemail that you are reading upoin entry that is Aurora / CONCORD telling the pilot of the new flight licence with a "light" reminder of how [censored] banned addons are.
- - Smooths reality ; Gives an base of an story that smooths reality ; that follows to next . . .
- Send the ccp-eve emplyees into some W.O.D. sql / scripts / python / brainstorming instead of risking the current flawless games to an " Russian Rullet " of altering already existing features.
- - This would stop ( / reduce) new feature bugs
- - This would give CCP an excuse / reason to start an W.O.D. mini projecty . Which has the bonus of 1) new game = new subscribers ; and 2) The reduction of rage-quits due to new feature flaws.
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[wing 3] ... hmmmm