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Customer Support lifting previous restrictions regarding war decs

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#261 - 2011-11-06 21:26:22 UTC
How EVE University Avoids Wardec Costs

(The method described in the post still needs 3rd-party verification.)
leich
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#262 - 2011-11-08 15:52:00 UTC
I Am discusted by this post.

War decing is already far to east to avoid.

This should continue to be considred an exploit.


War decs should also follow you as your move corp or alliance untill the dec has completed.

Are you trying to kill an already nerfed to hell area of the game?
rufeno
Black Frog Logistics
Red-Frog
#263 - 2011-11-09 15:00:07 UTC
leich wrote:
I Am discusted by this post.

War decing is already far to east to avoid.

This should continue to be considred an exploit.


War decs should also follow you as your move corp or alliance untill the dec has completed.

Are you trying to kill an already nerfed to hell area of the game?



yes, yes they are.

because we all know that everyone playing in high sec love wardec.

ShipToaster
#264 - 2011-11-09 21:11:06 UTC
Any more info on when the changes/fixes will be coming and what they are?

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Endeavour Starfleet
#265 - 2011-11-12 07:54:18 UTC
leich wrote:
I Am discusted by this post.

War decing is already far to east to avoid.

This should continue to be considred an exploit.


War decs should also follow you as your move corp or alliance untill the dec has completed.

Are you trying to kill an already nerfed to hell area of the game?




The issue is CCP has FAR too much on their plate right now to fix this right ATM. So they are temp allowing this for now. In the end the idea ought to be to remove the easy mode for 2 man corps to loldec larger corps and vise versa. The bigger difference in numbers ought to mean vastly increased war costs.

And to be frank. Hi sec wars currently suck. 99 percent of the time its just a few ganks here and there. Even if you are serious members can always just leave and go into an ALT corp. And I will never support denying that.

The whole damn system needs to be changed. Wars need to be about honor and prestige. ones who stay and fight ought to be rewarded and maybe even NPCs ought to be able to be fielded in small engagements.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#266 - 2011-11-12 08:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
The issue is CCP has FAR too much on their plate right now to fix this right ATM. So they are temp allowing this for now.
That's a complete guess. They've not said they are changing it at all. They could leave it this way for the next five years. The carebears would cheer and dance, but denying risk to highsec is not the credo upon which EVE Online was built.
rufeno
Black Frog Logistics
Red-Frog
#267 - 2011-11-12 15:36:44 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
The issue is CCP has FAR too much on their plate right now to fix this right ATM. So they are temp allowing this for now.
That's a complete guess. They've not said they are changing it at all. They could leave it this way for the next five years. The carebears would cheer and dance, but denying risk to highsec is not the credo upon which EVE Online was built.


the risk is still there.

Red Frog Freight has lost more to suicide gank (on freighters!) then all the wars combined.

wardec are just annoying, it's just a way to grief 99.9% of the time.

anyway, with all the change coming this winter, you need to realise that the player base does NOT want to take part in pvp, and that CCP is changing the game to accomodate them. (and remember the forums are far from being representative of the player base)

Everything change and evolve. stop being the old sad rambler who's trying to ruin fun for eveyone else.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#268 - 2011-11-12 19:14:44 UTC
rufeno wrote:
Red Frog Freight has lost more to suicide gank (on freighters!) then all the wars combined.

I betcha their losses will go down significantly now.

Quote:
wardec are just annoying, it's just a way to grief 99.9% of the time.

Why are they annoying? And how do you define griefing?

Quote:
anyway, with all the change coming this winter, you need to realise that the player base does NOT want to take part in pvp, and that CCP is changing the game to accomodate them.

This was a hardened gaming experience. If CCP is trying to transform it into a something else, then it will go the way of the Chinese server.

Quote:
Everything change and evolve. stop being the old sad rambler who's trying to ruin fun for eveyone else.

Not all change is good.
Greasy Meat Curtains
#269 - 2011-11-13 09:32:08 UTC
I hope you all remember this thread and the BS it is about when Kelduum Revaan runs for CSM7.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#270 - 2011-11-13 11:11:08 UTC
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CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Aaron Aardvark
Doomheim
#271 - 2011-11-13 11:59:45 UTC
If anybody disagrees with this I suggest they participate in Hulkageddon V.
Greasy Meat Curtains
#272 - 2011-11-13 16:04:47 UTC
If you disagree with this thread then you must read this ganking CCP thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32342&find=unread

and then participate in it. Plus, you'll get isk.
rufeno
Black Frog Logistics
Red-Frog
#273 - 2011-11-13 17:07:58 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:

I betcha their losses will go down significantly now.


If you're refering to the insurace removal, I don't think it'll change anything about that, it's more of a "there's something hidden, let's shoot it out!"

Poetic Stanziel wrote:

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wardec are just annoying, it's just a way to grief 99.9% of the time.

Why are they annoying? And how do you define griefing?


griefing, in this particular case, is deccing small corps you know will just stop playing outside station.

Poetic Stanziel wrote:

Quote:
Everything change and evolve. stop being the old sad rambler who's trying to ruin fun for eveyone else.

Not all change is good.



not all change is good, but those small one CCP did are.

Like I said somewhere else, high-sec is not safer then it was, I never lost a ship due to war, but i've lost plenty to suicide gank.

and even if you don't get your insurance back from it, a 500m payout on an indy will still be profitable.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#274 - 2011-11-14 16:15:20 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
You don't fix the problem of people getting mugged by making it legal to mug people.

Likewise, you don't fix the problem of people exploiting poorly thought out game mechanics by making the exploits allowable.


This is me totally agreeing with you....CCP I think you just made hell freeze over.
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#275 - 2011-11-14 23:31:22 UTC
Thumbs up!
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#276 - 2011-11-14 23:32:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Dream Five
Dream Five wrote:
Thumbs up!


Btw i think the reason they are doing this is because the new BCs and destroyer changes will change the hisec ganking balance (ganking without wardec)
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#277 - 2011-11-14 23:55:56 UTC
Dream Five wrote:
Dream Five wrote:
Thumbs up!


Btw i think the reason they are doing this is because the new BCs and destroyer changes will change the hisec ganking balance (ganking without wardec)
Now there's ganking while at war?
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#278 - 2011-11-15 20:53:04 UTC
Sad
This is no longer stickied.
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Doomheim
#279 - 2011-11-15 23:52:02 UTC
rufeno wrote:
wardec are just annoying, it's just a way to grief 99.9% of the time.


rufeno wrote:
griefing, in this particular case, is deccing small corps you know will just stop playing outside station.


Eve Uni is a 1500 man alliance that plays all over Eve.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#280 - 2011-11-16 00:39:49 UTC
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:
Eve Uni is a 1500 man alliance that plays all over Eve.
They really only play in highsec. Some small proportion of them will venture into lowsec. An even smaller proportion will do sites in wormholes or npc nullsec. No unista is allowed into sov nullsec.