EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'd like to echo the sentiment that the tutorial is just bad. There's tons of essential knowledge you have to look up in out of game sources, and as parts of the game get overhauled and hence external videos/wikis etc don't match up with the actual game, things get hard.

The entire PvP part of Eve isn't explained anywhere to a new player, let alone that they will start in highsec where this is complicated by crimewatch.

For many starting players, how to make money is an issue, and due to how earning at low levels work many conclude mining is most profitable and start off in a direction they will later regret.

I feel that there's nothing more important for newbies to know than what your GMs are doing, because they attempt to obfuscate their actions in massive posts filled with legalese and doublespeak.

Well, whatever. Please don't discount my other input based on other posts that you deem to be off-topic. I don't think any of us are 'angry' - but censoring posts that the player base feels are on topic is really bad PR when trying to appeal to new players.

Regardless, there are some good suggestions in this thread. I'm glad that the time has come to revamp the tutorial / give more information to newbros. Helping the community help new players as well should be on the top of the list.

How to invert the scroll wheel zoom direction and only that direction, without inverting any other controls such as menu scrolling or inverting the whole mouse. The answer turned out to be "you can't," but it took me a damn long time and a lot of control panel frustration before realizing that fact.

How to turn off the tutorial once and for all without it ever popping up or blinking at me ever again for that character. I don't think I ever did solve that one pre-odyssey besides clicking through everything every time I made a new character since at the time turning off the tutorial seemed to do nothing.

Also how to export settings and shortcuts and carry it over from account to account. Again can't be done using only in-game methods, and again not obvious since the game does have very functional exporting abilities elsewhere.

A lot of my early frustrations at the lack of this or that feature was compounded by the fact that said lacks were not obviously documented or searchable in any way. When you're just starting out and are unfamiliar with the limitations of functionality in such a complex game, trying to separate what can't be done with what you don't know how to do can be an enduring and aggravating chore.

Everything? :p

- Tracking mechanics are extremely complicated. I dont advocate making the mechanic simpler, but maybe adding some kind of intuitive system that shows how your tracking the current target. Red = Bad, Yellow = Ok , Green = Good.

As a relatively new player (about 2 months), my experience is still pretty fresh, so I'll give it a go.

I think the tutorials are pretty good, actually. Of course the tutorials are lacking a lot, but that's just because if they were designed to teach you everything you needed to know, I'd still be playing them. I second the calls for d-scan and overview to be added to tutorials in some way, although I think the problem with overview goes beyond tutorials. It's a terrible UI that needs to be fixed. That's the only thing making it complicated.

I might suggest another tier of career missions, similar to military. Like advanced industry, advanced exploration, etc. Also, invention & research is missing from the tutorial completely. (Honestly, I still have no idea how research and invention works, so there's something for you) Maybe that could be part of advanced industry, I don't know.

So, what didn't I know at the outset?

1. How things like aggression timers, outlaw/suspect mechanics work and what they mean
2. Research and invention. (Still unclear)
3. That asteroid belts deplete. Seriously, if you go to a rookie system and try to mine, there's usually nothing left. At all. I thought at first that the asteroid belts must be enormous with vast distances between the rocks, so I went with my little Venture and tried to sort of manually fly around and see if I could find anything. Also, since I didn't know about overview, I didn't realize I could set it up to look for asteroids, etc. So I was flying around randomly, manually swirling my camera around to look for asteroids that weren't there. Also, I didn't realize that everything was gone because it had been completely used up.

But all in all, the tutorials give you a pretty good sense of the basics. They did for me anyway. And yes, you need to read stuff on the internet. I don't think that's necessarily a problem though. You don't want to have a tutorial that lasts a month, after all. At some point, you just want to get out and start playing, even if you barely know anything.

Turret Tracking

Seriously, we need a video to visualize this. It's been a problem forever.

Stacking Penalty

7 Heatsinks isn't much better than 4. Really need some better indication that those mods aren't giving you their full effect.

What modules can affect what on your ship.

I see all those attributes, but I didn't know what I could do to affect them. If I wanted more capacitor, after much digging through the market I found the Power Diagnostic, but what I really wanted was the capacitor battery. There's a lot of **** in Eve, new players really need help finding out what they need.

That bigger isn't better

Common problem is that players see more damage and more hitpoints and immediately think that every cruiser is better than every frigate. This may tie into the Turret Tracking concept, but the differences need to be made apparent.

I think I agree with that, it depends on how good the material is. I would personally like some kind of tutorial where they keep giving you a small ship and if you get it blown up by the single battleship spawn then it gets replaced after a few hours if you didn't complete it. I know there's a chance for exploitation if you keep selling the frig, but I'm sure there could be something worked out so that it's not really worth it.

First thing I wish I had known? The importance of turret mechanics in this game. I mean broader look. WIth videos and schematics.