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GM clarification on rewording of the Terms of Service

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Iamien
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1321 - 2013-09-13 13:24:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Iamien
Boxless is my alt and I will give you 10 billion isk if you send me 10k isk.


(this is when everyone sends me 10k isk and petitions me for alt scamming, seriously).
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1322 - 2013-09-13 13:27:58 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Boxless is my alt and I will give you 10 billion isk if you send me 10k isk.

Can you please post in here on Boxless confirming that he is your alt?
(See GM Karidor, this is how you go about to confirm somebody is somebody else's alt, works ingame as well (use evemail))
Boxless
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1323 - 2013-09-13 13:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Boxless
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Iamien wrote:
Boxless is my alt and I will give you 10 billion isk if you send me 10k isk.

Can you please post in here on Boxless confirming that he is your alt?



Confirmed

 FREE Iamien !!!!!
Sarah Harpoon
Lootbox Kaboom Inc
#1324 - 2013-09-13 13:29:36 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Boxless is my alt


You'd actually get banned around there. Welp.
Good at EVE
Doomheim
#1325 - 2013-09-13 13:29:44 UTC
Hi, I'm Good at EVE.
Bad at EVE
Doomheim
#1326 - 2013-09-13 13:30:37 UTC
Good at EVE wrote:
Hi, I'm Good at EVE.

And I'm Bad at EVE.
Good at EVE
Doomheim
#1327 - 2013-09-13 13:31:17 UTC
And yes, we will petition anyone claiming to be either of us.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#1328 - 2013-09-13 13:33:11 UTC
Good at EVE wrote:
And yes, we will petition anyone claiming to be either of us.

but but...you could have constructed a impersonation scam with that setup...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Sarah Harpoon
Lootbox Kaboom Inc
#1329 - 2013-09-13 13:33:34 UTC
I'm good at eve, just look at my killboard.
Cierra Royce
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1330 - 2013-09-13 13:35:16 UTC
I am actually rather pleased with this clarification thread, as its been properly clarified that the ToS, EULA and Naming convention, all contain language antithetical to the history and spirit of eve itself and the expecations and understanding of pretty much the entire player base.

CCP don't miss this opportunity to align your ToS with the expectations of your players.
We are a mature bunch and celebrate being able interact in a variety of maliciously tricksy fashions and do not want nor require the handholding these new changes would bring.
Echo Echoplex
#1331 - 2013-09-13 13:35:40 UTC
Bad at EVE wrote:
Good at EVE wrote:
Hi, I'm Good at EVE.

And I'm Bad at EVE.

Hi Good, hi Bad, I'm Peeved.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Boxless
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1332 - 2013-09-13 13:36:17 UTC
I'm bad at eve, I have never killed a single rat or player.

 FREE Iamien !!!!!
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#1333 - 2013-09-13 13:40:52 UTC
Seriously CCP, it's several months too early for the 1st of April.
No really.

FREE THE ToS !! (Translations of Stupidity)

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#1334 - 2013-09-13 13:44:25 UTC
GM Karidor wrote:
To throw the ball back to you:
In the hypothetical situation that we were to take no action in such cases, you'd be rather annoyed about Joe once you got wind that he's ruining your hard earned reputation, wouldn't you? Given that such characters as Joe usually don't go about wandering in space very often, you'd have no real recourse of hounding him down until the end of time either.

you are implying that there are no other ways to protect yourself other than blowing someone up, which is not true. trust is an asset like any other and if you are not able or not willing to protect the trust people place in you, you probably do not deserve it to begin with.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Rena Senn
Halal Gunnery
#1335 - 2013-09-13 13:47:28 UTC
Lets say I use a very reputable character to create a legitimate service corp. I inform a staff member on out of game comms that he's actually working for a very lucrative down payment taking scam, and send him off as an actual official corp member to snare a new "mark" who's in fact my alt. I then use the alt to petition said staffer for misrepresenting my organization with his theft. Even though I was the one who initially misrepresented the nature of my corp to him, because it happened in an unprovable way out of game, and because CCP no longer makes any distinctions between same player alts and separate player characters, hilariously my unfortunate protege is now the one who ends up banhammered for being convinced by myself to misrepresent myself so he could scam myself.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#1336 - 2013-09-13 13:48:14 UTC
Too bad we can't see a result of someone petition with abuse of this funny TOS, because its going to take them SOON™ so respond :(

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Iamien
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1337 - 2013-09-13 13:51:48 UTC
Plain and simple, this is CCP trying to implement a Play Nice Policy. EvE players do not play nice.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#1338 - 2013-09-13 13:53:16 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Plain and simple, this is CCP trying to implement a Play Nice Policy. EvE players do not play nice.


We do! Up until we stab you in the back...

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1339 - 2013-09-13 13:53:25 UTC
Iamien wrote:
EvE players do not play nice.

Which isn't surprising, since the entire premise of EVE is "it's a harsh universe out there, don't trust anyone".
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#1340 - 2013-09-13 13:58:28 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
GM Karidor wrote:
To throw the ball back to you:
In the hypothetical situation that we were to take no action in such cases, you'd be rather annoyed about Joe once you got wind that he's ruining your hard earned reputation, wouldn't you? Given that such characters as Joe usually don't go about wandering in space very often, you'd have no real recourse of hounding him down until the end of time either.

you are implying that there are no other ways to protect yourself other than blowing someone up, which is not true. trust is an asset like any other and if you are not able or not willing to protect the trust people place in you, you probably do not deserve it to begin with.


More to the point: since when was "But this makes people mad" sufficient reason to limit player freedom?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016