Player Features and Ideas Discussion

if they were to be stationary, they would be called castles or something..

i mentioned this in the marauder post, but i dont think they are going to read through 170+ pages so hopefully this catches their eye along with the other 20 marauder posts i have made.

i want to address:
the name marauder in general...
resists
scanning
salvage
tractor beams
tank
alignment time
speed in general
new possible bonus to hp ammount
rep rate

they should be fast strikers, not bricks. they should have t2 resists, mjd bonus, faster scan res for locking, low sensor str (fits the role-they arent designed for continual combat, just quick skirmishes).

they should align quickly and mjd. stop and pounce or get at range and snipe. they dont have to have tons of hp, just good hp and resists.
as i put in my post, they could have a bonus like the damnation (5% to armor or shield per marauder lev showing their training to fight the ship). make it start lower than typical bs (because they are lighter and faster), but once the bonus is full (marauder 5), be above typical bs.

the bastion mode is kewl. it would fit in well with this idea since they are immobile once deployed. it would fit in well with the low sensor str too. once in bastion mode, they are unjammable, but out of bastion mode, they are easily taken out with even the simplist of jamming frigs.

they need their reps back since they will have low tanks.
give them an rr bonus. it fits too. when in bastion mode, they cant be repped, and when out, they are easily jammed (and it cant be OP if its easily jammed).
like 5% per lev to reps, rep range or something. maybe a 5% per lev reduction in cap use for rr modules.


its a pve ship:
it still needs a scan bonus for probing.
it also needs the tractor range enhanced a little more.
a salvage difficulty bonus would be a kewl niche for these over a noctis.
we arent putting salvage rigs on em so we have to deal with basic skills. marauders should get these skills increased. maybe 50% bonus. with a probe launcher, tractor and salvager, we can only fit 1. it takes alot of time to salvage with a non-bonused marauder. give us a reason to use it over a noctis.

pve would still have their pve ships, incursions would have a kewl ship, worm hole goers would be able to tend to each other and salvage without having to call in a noctis, and for those running lev 4's, you still have your anti-jam mode as well.

I'm pretty sure marauders was just a fancy name slapped on a line of T2 BS :(

For proper marauders to really work ingame IMO they need sub-systems, while not to the degree of strategic cruisers IMO they need a certain level of versatility over normal ships.


EDIT: Agree with the post above - Bastion ships should be a line of their own - very specialised T2 ships and Marauders a more generalised line that while aimed at a certain set of tasks is more versatile in its approach.

EDIT2: My general thoughts for them are fairly inline with the OP's but for instance I think they should have propulsion sub-systems that let you swap between say MJD bonus, AB bonus, (very) short range jump drive and so on.

i would love a burner bonus or something. i dont use mwd much, but whatever..

the mjd is bad ass though and i love the thought of being able to bounce around and snipe. one doesnt need as much tank if one doesnt get hit.

i just think a ship that gets in and dishs it out, cleans up the mess and goes away is what a marauder is "historically".
fast, tough (not impenatrable), good damage, fast locking to show the element of suprise, etc.

if someone has defenses against marauding bandits (jamming), they should be extremely succeptable (low sensor str).

maybe a faster warp speed. like 4.5 au to "arrive first and shred"

Just brainstorming here, but what if the ship was bonused in the direction of non targeted armaments?

Friend or Foe missiles, I see them referred to as Auto-Targeting now?
Either way, slap on a 100% damage bonus.
Example, inferno missiles
Auto Targeting cruise missile: 281 thermal
Normal cruise missile: 375 thermal.

100% bonus to Auto Targeting: 562 thermal

Combined with 100% bonus on previous:
Auto Targeting: 1,124 thermal (but not specific to any one target)
Normal: 750 thermal (delivered exactly where you want it)

Both would be limited by target's resistances, of course.

Smart bombs: again, 100% bonus.

Possible regular bomb launcher, bonus debateable if multiple launchers possible.

As I've suggested before:

Role bonus: Immunity to non targeted interdiction (ie, goes through bubbles like a T3)

Marauder Skill bonus:
+1 to warp strength per level
+5% to agility and max velocity per level

So, they'd be really good at evading gate camps

You'd need a HIC or multiple points to catch one.

CCP is trying to gear Marauders to fill a small niche in PvP as well as retain their effectiveness in PvE..

And you want to let them mitigate risk by being interdictor nullified AND a warp core bonus? Marauders 5 would give a warp core strength of 6? Can I have what you're smoking?

The version I suggested would have benefits, as well as penalties.

A bonused Marauder would land on grid with targets.
Forget locking anything, activate all weapons.
(The golem would use the missiles as described, and the others could either use auto-targeting weapon equivalents or possibly also launchers)
(As precedent, I point out that the SBs all use torpedo launchers as an option, despite some races having obvious benefits with other weapon platforms)

The Marauder, lined up like a bomber is, simply hits warp after a cycle of launched weapons, and leaves grid, only to return moments later from the other direction, to repeat this.

This would give the Marauder a combat edge, and if it fit a few stabs to block a point, who cares if it's targeting range is diminished?

Have fun getting blobbed in your 1 bil ISK hulls. I doubt anyone is going to use T2 Marauder hulls for small gang PvP, warp core bonus or not. Risk averse ideas/attitudes don't belong in EVE anyhow. Don't want to lose ships? Stay docked.

I'll bite:

Why do they need to become that? I mean, when was the last time you wanted to do something other than intended in a Mackinaw or the Rhea? Marauders were designed as highly specialized pve boats and that's what they're supposed to be awesome at. I honestly don't understand why they need to be pushed into a role they were never intended for. What's next, alpha mining barge?

If you want them to maraud... I dunno.

Just increase their sensor resolution (a lot) for faster locks and give them something like an interdiction nullifier, leave them as they are otherwise.

The bastion module is a cool idea, but I am beginning to believe that it would be way cooler if every battle ship class vessel could use that.