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Are EVE subscriptions decreasing again?

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#1 - 2013-09-13 05:44:15 UTC
Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net

It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph

I know that eve-offline isn't the perfect indicator of where EVE is going. But I am curious as to why this may be the case.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#2 - 2013-09-13 05:47:11 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net

It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph

I know that eve-offline isn't the perfect indicator of where EVE is going. But I am curious as to why this may be the case.

Kids back at school or university.
Realise that they should bother about RL.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-09-13 05:47:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
My guess is that it's something that generally happens from update to update. People flow in at first, then some of them go back to RL when new stuff isn't new for them anymore.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-09-13 05:50:07 UTC
Start of the school/uni/college year.
The Forum Alt
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-09-13 05:50:11 UTC
Posting in yet another stealth eve is dying thread.

Look at the figures one month after release of the winter expansion to see if there is a downward trend.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#6 - 2013-09-13 06:00:18 UTC

Also. Does anyone know if the numbers for TQ on eveoffline include Dust players?

I think it does for the newborn player graph.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#7 - 2013-09-13 06:13:03 UTC
In addition to "Summer is over" remember that we had a major war. Idle accounts were activated to provide cynosural, extra guns for structure bashing, logistics, whathaveyou. Now that things have quietened down there is no need for that third cyno alt or that second jump freighter pilot. So a few accounts go dark again.

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Laserak
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-09-13 06:18:00 UTC
Theres a lot of new games out right now, I only login for ops Cool
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#9 - 2013-09-13 06:20:01 UTC
I don't get it. Every year this topic pops-up again and again.

If it's summer on the top part of the globe and subscriptions decline people here say, it because of the summer, people go out, have vacation, enjoy the sun. And when the summer has ended and the subscription numbers decline people say here that it's because schools/work started again.

Now what is it? Straight
Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
#10 - 2013-09-13 06:35:14 UTC
you are a bit early, it probably is just the usual cycle like the others have said.

but it looks like they don't like alts anymore and you can get banned for even telling someone truthfully that you are your own alt.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=search&gmbadge=1
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3609952#post3609952

that’s going to put a serious dent in subscriber numbers soon if they keep that change. and especially if they keep claiming that there wasn't even a change.

i don't even waste my time with scamming but this is taking away the foundation of everything that eve is and i sure will not resub if they start going down this road

like always: eve is dying. only that this time it might actually be true :(

btw, dear reading GM: i am in no way associated with the OP or anyone else in this thread or in eve or in the world ever (i guess i need to make this a signature soon)
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#11 - 2013-09-13 06:55:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Houm...

Interanual variation is on the positive (we got more PCU than last year in the same dates), so that's OK by a small margin.
New born chars are slightly down, though.

DUST 514 PCC is steadily going down.

Serenity PCU is stable.

No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#12 - 2013-09-13 06:57:42 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed.


Yup, that's what remains to be seen...

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#13 - 2013-09-13 06:59:08 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed.


Yup, that's what remains to be seen...


*hugs* keep the faith lil' sister!

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#14 - 2013-09-13 07:03:58 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
*hugs* keep the faith lil' sister!

What can I say? Nihilism just isn't my style... Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-09-13 07:35:22 UTC
How can you draw any conclusion about subscribtions loss when looking at the online players graph?

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#16 - 2013-09-13 08:09:24 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net

It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph
What that graph tells me is that activity drops a bit below average at about this time every year.

Who put the goat in there?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2013-09-13 10:06:34 UTC
They probably aren't decreasing — more likely, they're just not increasing at the same rate. We've had a period of pretty steady numbers compared to last year, and back then we had a number of very popular patches that spiked the numbers more than what the normal seasonal behaviour would suggest.
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2013-09-13 10:23:29 UTC
Historically there's always a dip in numbers around the end of summer and then we've always seen growth leading up to, and following the winter expansion.

Numbers have never been higher than post Odyssey ;)

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Volitaire
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#19 - 2013-09-13 10:25:21 UTC
Let's see do I **** sorority girls or play this **** game
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#20 - 2013-09-13 11:42:17 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Historically there's always a dip in numbers around the end of summer and then we've always seen growth leading up to, and following the winter expansion.

Numbers have never been higher than post Odyssey ;)


I actually just want to say thanks for the response, not many companies would just tell their customers stuff like this as it requires a certain level of trust that people wont over react.

That's why it's a shame that EVE is clearly dying.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
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