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I Will Continue to Gank "New Players" in Highsec

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#21 - 2013-09-12 07:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool. Blink

It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you! Big smile

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Crimson Gauntlet
Six Gun Sound
#22 - 2013-09-12 07:16:31 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool. Blink

It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you! Big smile


Why bannable? He is not saying he is actively pursuing other players, merely that he takes on all comers via the New Order's RP.

Not a thing wrong with that. Or is any action against a "new player" bannable to you? Are you going to be one of those people who encourage a noob to launch a petition when they die of their own stupidity?

P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well.
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#23 - 2013-09-12 07:19:31 UTC
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well.


...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)

Lady Areola Fappington
#24 - 2013-09-12 07:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Areola Fappington
Shalua Rui wrote:
Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool. Blink

It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you! Big smile



Now, we've had reasonable conversations before, so, here goes...

I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game. CCP comes from Ultima Online's pre-trammael days, with the explicit motivation to NOT make that same mistake. The higher ups at CCP have stated that they'd rather kill the game off, over removing noncon PVP. No matter what, EVE will always retain the ability to target and open fire on another ship, even if they don't want to fight.

I doubt Galaxy is going to get banned. They've been at this for a long time. As I said, it's likely just an ISD using poor wording to describe "Newbie zones along with participating in SoE arc".

Also, we're not fascists, we're religious zealots.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Crimson Gauntlet
Six Gun Sound
#25 - 2013-09-12 07:22:02 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well.


...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP.


Fascist? What would make you use that descriptor?
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illirdor
Upper Class Goat
#26 - 2013-09-12 07:24:59 UTC
Galaxy Chicken wrote:
Ah yes, nothing really changed, well the rules got more vague and all-encompassing, but they will be enforced just the same as always, we are assured.
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So if nothing has changed then why the **** do you even post... nobody care about miner bumping.

Soooo this is my sig.... 

Lady Areola Fappington
#27 - 2013-09-12 07:31:11 UTC
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well.


...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP.


Fascist? What would make you use that descriptor?



We're big mean doodooheads, Mr Gauntlet. We're quite literally a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Fascists (us) seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community, relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.


It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Crimson Gauntlet
Six Gun Sound
#28 - 2013-09-12 07:33:15 UTC
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It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples.


Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo.
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Lady Areola Fappington
#29 - 2013-09-12 07:37:19 UTC
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
Quote:
It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples.


Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo.



Let me lend a hand. You're mean, come out to null and fight, I have a super PVP character and you're on my list, I belong to a massive nullsec alliance and now you're set red, Goon alt, TEST alt, PL alt, what are you 12, and (generic RL threat)*.



*generic RL threat was totally made as a satirical comment in regards to the "miner bingo" game. I would never commit harm on Mr. Gauntlet, he's a swell person who I'd love to have a beer with.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Crimson Gauntlet
Six Gun Sound
#30 - 2013-09-12 07:42:03 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Crimson Gauntlet wrote:
Quote:
It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples.


Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo.



Let me lend a hand. You're mean, come out to null and fight, I have a super PVP character and you're on my list, I belong to a massive nullsec alliance and now you're set red, Goon alt, TEST alt, PL alt, what are you 12, and (generic RL threat)*.



*generic RL threat was totally made as a satirical comment in regards to the "miner bingo" game. I would never commit harm on Mr. Gauntlet, he's a swell person who I'd love to have a beer with.


You were right on the third one. Hadn't had anyone threaten me with nullsec friends since I started my little adventure in Balle. (for which, by the way, I have awarded myself the title of "Baller".)

Got a lot of the rest of the list though. My favorite are the numerous references to space honor.

As to the last sentence, likewise. :)
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killerkeano
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-09-12 08:22:51 UTC
yawn.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#32 - 2013-09-12 08:23:31 UTC
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#33 - 2013-09-12 08:52:40 UTC
Galaxy Chicken wrote:
Sperg

Allrighty then.
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#34 - 2013-09-12 09:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game.


That is where you're wrong. They have explicitly stated that griefing new players in starting systems is if not a bannable offense, a stern warning and then temp-bannable offense. Just like any other company they don't want people leaving the game because some douche mcdoucheface pods a new player as soon as they undock the first time.
Lady Areola Fappington
#35 - 2013-09-12 09:16:15 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game.


That is where you're wrong. They have explicitly stated that griefing new players in starting systems is if not a bannable offence, a stern warning and then temp-bannable offense. Just like any other company they don't want people leaving the game because some douche mcdoucheface pods a new player as soon as they undock the first time.



That is messing with the newbies. Pretty much the only concession to noncon PVP, and only in specific systems.

I feel the same, killing fresh faces is pretty dumb. There's some disagreement with what a fresh face is, but I tend to avoid anyone under two weeks.


Outside of that though, all bets are off. CCP has stated if the choice was noncon PVP and a shutdown, they'll go with a shutdown. It's literally as in the dictionary definition of literally, one of the core components of EVE.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#36 - 2013-09-12 09:55:01 UTC
*yawn*
Irrelevant thread remains irrelevant.
Yet I still found time to post here.

CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#37 - 2013-09-12 11:07:35 UTC
I am locking this thread and would like to remind you that ganking rookies in the Rookie Systems is against the rules. Harassment of new players is also taken very seriously and will be dealt with by our GM team.

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