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Even after the buff, zealot fleets suck against megathron fleets
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Heather Tsukaya
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-09-11 20:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Heather Tsukaya
At first things look very promising, a lot of the damage is mitigated through traversal/signature tanking: http://i.imgur.com/kfkT3wo.png

However then you get painted to hell:
http://i.imgur.com/eWX8r50.png

Maybe webbed too:
http://i.imgur.com/63CtzHk.png

So imagine you're a N3 or Solar Legion FC or something and you plan to engage the CFC. What sort of DPS ships would you bring against the CFC's Baltic Fleet?
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#2 - 2013-09-11 21:46:54 UTC
Mate, they're worse. The Zealot is more or less the same as it was pre-1.1 except it gets less sig/speed tanking with the link nerf.

The moar you cry the less you pee
Heather Tsukaya
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-09-11 22:31:51 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Mate, they're worse. The Zealot is more or less the same as it was pre-1.1 except it gets less sig/speed tanking with the link nerf.

Any ideas for the last paragraph?

Although from what I've heard about you, you'd probably say phoenixes Blink
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#4 - 2013-09-12 01:04:00 UTC
Graph tells it clearly, stay 100km+ and those do not hit at all.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#5 - 2013-09-12 02:18:37 UTC
or fly tengus max tanked to therm and kin lelelelelelelelelelelelelelelelelelelel
Sanakan Seidensha
Netsphere Access Services
#6 - 2013-09-12 08:35:13 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Graph tells it clearly, stay 100km+ and those do not hit at all.


100km+ means they can warp on you?
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#7 - 2013-09-12 10:00:39 UTC
Why not blaping dreads? Oh you afraid of supers.....
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-09-12 10:33:56 UTC
Sanakan Seidensha wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Graph tells it clearly, stay 100km+ and those do not hit at all.


100km+ means they can warp on you?

150 is the point for warp.

however it would be interesting to see what can do zealot from 100km (can it lock so far?)

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Dame Vaa'ko
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-09-13 18:16:51 UTC
yea lets just theorycraft a way to beat railmega fleets on the forums

oh wait eve isnt that kind of game

whoever has the bigger blob will win null fleet fights

u just have to wait until they destroy themselves from within hur dur fagurrrr
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-09-13 18:48:32 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Sanakan Seidensha wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Graph tells it clearly, stay 100km+ and those do not hit at all.


100km+ means they can warp on you?

150 is the point for warp.

however it would be interesting to see what can do zealot from 100km (can it lock so far?)


Warp to something 150km away at 50km range = 100km warp in
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#11 - 2013-09-13 21:17:35 UTC
What? Zealot is no longer top dog for nullsec blobs? There happens to exist a hard counter to a common and well known fleet composition? By god...

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#12 - 2013-09-13 21:26:58 UTC
Dame Vaa'ko wrote:
yea lets just theorycraft a way to beat railmega fleets on the forums

oh wait eve isnt that kind of game

whoever has the bigger blob will win null fleet fights

u just have to wait until they destroy themselves from within hur dur fagurrrr


Or use lots and lots of bombs. I've never understood why more groups flying a T2 or T3 AHAC style fleet against BS doctrines don't take advantage of their own resilience of their bombs as an advantage.

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