EVE General Discussion

Anyone up for shooting some monuments?

Sorry busy shooting stuff in Delve

Contrary to the CSM's close held belief of self-importance - rioting in Jita (and the many other forms of in-game and (most importantly) out-of-CCP-control internet actions, ultimately leading to adverse publicity, is much, much more effective than the CSM.

Payer's! Um excuse me, Players - we're done here. Go forth!

We have like ten corps full of spies anyway.

The point is more that, between the 6 goon alliances and the 21 goon corps (according to dotlan), who is (mis)representing or impersonating what, and what are the “actual” requirements for joining these goons…? And what do I mean by “these goons”?

Also, after the flood of impersonation petition has drowned the GM staff, which of the above will be crowned the actual goons and on what grounds (and by whom, since the GMs will all have had strong urges to trip over the edge of a volcano at that point)?

Look at the bright side

When you apply to AWOX a miner corp on a dedicated catalyst pilot, you can legally claim to be a member of the Miner player group. Every character starts with the ability to use the mining laser on a rookie ship, making everyone a member. Furthermore, when they ask you about any other characters you may have, you cannot acknowledge their existence. Not without breaching ToS, as that would not be verifiable in game.

At least come out and say that you are trying to ban scams that have been legal for years. If that it is in fact NOT your intention (which I don't think anyone believes at this point), then maybe try posting a clarification that actually clarifies something.

This is BS and not what Eve is about.

Just for a bit of clarity:

True or not, the claim that the ToS change merely restates existing policy is irrelevant:

1) Nobody knew the policy was even in force, because;

2) Hardly anyone ever petitioned it, because;

3) It seems so blatantly against the nature of EVE to petition something like this.

Furthermore, the evidence we have that it was the existing policy comes from petitions by people who didn't even bother to check with their corpmates to see if the applicant was really an alt of theirs, and in the above-linked case, someone who actually complained that someone was fraudulently claiming authority they didn't have in order to con them. Horrors! Con men never do that!

It doesn't matter if this was the policy in place. It's a dumb policy. It wasn't clear before because even the majority of victims thought it was a dumb policy, or it would have occurred to them to take advantage of it.

It does not need to be clarified. It needs to be revoked.

I'm a software developer. I see a solution to this clusterfsck of a thread which will completely nullify all complaints here.

Lock this thread with an explanation that it's being rolled back for review, then:

git reset --soft HEAD^
# Re-think, re-word, and discuss with the CNM.
git commit -c ORIG_HEAD

Profit!

(Edited to add: no, those commands aren't a joke about heads being soft. Those are actual source code management commands.)

nope they both get reimbursed! because unless they were being scammed by an official recruiter of the entity, the "recruiter" was misrepresenting himself as a representative of the entity.

RIP in peace scamming in eve.

Edit: but this all depends on the GM's mood that day, and how they want to interpret the TOS.