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GM clarification on rewording of the Terms of Service

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Reckless Ourtomineng
#441 - 2013-09-11 18:09:00 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
There should be more threads like this about eve wrong stuff, eve would be a better a place :).
Censorship leads to frustration or even leaving the game.
Listening to player base instead makes the company look better and makes player happier.

I don't care much about scamming (even if the impersonating stuff went a little to far tbh,make clear rules) but threads like this makes me feel alive , or at least beeing part of something.

They have clearly been listening with their game-changing "clarifications", and their boilerplate copy and paste and "this is not the change you are looking for"


apart that , might this be a wanted stealth scandal for more publicity and they are using us as puppets for that prupose?
greiton starfire
Accidentally Hardcore
#442 - 2013-09-11 18:09:28 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
While we have a break in the action... (and my head IS still spinning around this...) -

I applaud the many Goons for seriously engaging to get this all straightened out, but is it only me that feels a bit of irony in that this "clarification" does bolster their new renting efforts?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.... LOL

I now return you to the same bat thread, on the same bat channel...



In fact it does, but goons have always loved the sandbox, that they could be mean if they wanted to. having bad mean lying players, makes being a good guy more impressive and meaningful. in a game about choice they are taking away the free will.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#443 - 2013-09-11 18:09:53 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?

Who said it is a good idea now?

It's always been like that

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#444 - 2013-09-11 18:11:18 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?


I think it's good for the GM team who are apparently tired of dealing with scam-related petitions.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#445 - 2013-09-11 18:11:34 UTC
Goodswarm federation?

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#446 - 2013-09-11 18:13:01 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?

Who said it is a good idea now?

It's always been like that


Obviously someone thought it was a good idea to do this. Maybe they were scammed or metagamed before.

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thee lous3
Tech III Bone Cancer
#447 - 2013-09-11 18:13:27 UTC
I am Blawrf Mctaggart.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#448 - 2013-09-11 18:15:09 UTC
Rhes wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?


I think it's good for the GM team who are apparently tired of dealing with scam-related petitions.


The easiest answer to that is a button that replies to a petition with this then closes it:

Dear (insert scammed capsuleer here),

You have been scammed, this is a good lesson for you please learn from it. Do not petition this again.

Best,

(GM team)

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jitarbug dd
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#449 - 2013-09-11 18:15:54 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Kat Ayclism wrote:
I, too, may, or may not, be Barf McSwaggert.


I too, may, or may not, be Burt McSwagartist.

I may, or may not, be an alt of one of these people that may, or may not, be Blart McFargate.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#450 - 2013-09-11 18:16:25 UTC
GM Grimmi wrote:
We cannot go into specifics as each report is different and this will just end up leading into a circular argument of “ifs” and “buts”. We will say that impersonation cases are handled on a case by case basis by experienced GMs and there is no change in how such cases will be handled from now from how they were handled a year ago.



Thats all and good but all you did by updating the TOS is give every eve player a reason to petition a loss and give them false hope that their stuff will be returned.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#451 - 2013-09-11 18:16:43 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Rhes wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?


I think it's good for the GM team who are apparently tired of dealing with scam-related petitions.


The easiest answer to that is a button that replies to a petition with this then closes it:

Dear (insert scammed capsuleer here),

You have been scammed, this is a good lesson for you please learn from it. Do not petition this again.

Best,

(GM team)

But perhaps they want to ban scammers.

Dear (scammer),

Screw you. Enjoy your ban.

Best,

(GM team*)


*Note: I am not a gm team

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Echo Echoplex
#452 - 2013-09-11 18:16:45 UTC
Rena Senn
Halal Gunnery
#453 - 2013-09-11 18:18:05 UTC
I guess this means every corp and alliance out there with the NPC entity "Legion" in their name is now due for a false representation petition.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#454 - 2013-09-11 18:18:59 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?

Who said it is a good idea now?

It's always been like that

Obviously someone thought it was a good idea to do this. Maybe they were scammed or metagamed before.

Well someone far back when they wrote the original tos

They just forgot to clarifiy that they intended no scamming, until someone figured it out just recently.


You know, that means EVE Online has been misrepresented to us. Petition eve online

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#455 - 2013-09-11 18:19:15 UTC
Rena Senn wrote:
I guess this means every corp and alliance out there with the NPC entity "Legion" in their name is now due for a false representation petition.

Hmmm...

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Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#456 - 2013-09-11 18:20:52 UTC
I am a member of Goonswarm Federation.

GET CRACKIN', KARIDOR

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#457 - 2013-09-11 18:24:34 UTC
I'M REPORTING ALL OF YOU JESUS CHRIST
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#458 - 2013-09-11 18:26:26 UTC
Kat Ayclism
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#459 - 2013-09-11 18:27:14 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
I'M REPORTING ALL OF YOU JESUS CHRIST

I am petitioning your alliance for impersonating GoonSwarm. Get to cracking GM Kerfluffleface!
Rena Senn
Halal Gunnery
#460 - 2013-09-11 18:27:16 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
I am a member of Goonswarm Federation.

GET CRACKIN', KARIDOR

Do you mean Gallente Federation? That's pretty bannable nowadays.