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9/11 A moment of your time.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-09-11 12:33:54 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen I would like for you to take a moment of your time to remember the tragedy of 9/11. So I ask to please find the time to remember all who have perished on this day.


I always forget about this until someone reminds me. It's 10:24pm in Australia and I've managed to go the entire day without hearing anything about it until now. A day I'd rather forget, to be honest. This tragedy, while no less a tragedy, was used as an excuse by your government to drag Australia into a war (invoking the ANZUS treaty and threatening the Free Trade Agreement if we didn't go) that nobody here wanted and got a very good friend of mine killed. I still remember a caricature in the newspaper of our Prime Minister at the time, John Howard, wearing a bullring through his nose and Bush pulling him around by a chain. It was fitting, and also remarkably accurate.

Not to belittle the lives lost in the tragedy, but I think war belittles everything just fine all by itself. It's a shame that there was little alternative other than military action. However, while I freely admit that I hate what this day sparked and have a personal problem with it, and still firmly believe we played right into the hands of terrorists by implementing such freedom-restricting security measures as a result, I can't think of any alternative that would have gotten the same result and I won't say the right thing was done in response, but I will say we did the best thing we could have done with the information we had at the time. Unfortunately, hindsight is always waiting to play its hand.

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RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-09-11 12:34:07 UTC
I was in school when 9/11 happened. That day i decided to join the US Army and fight for my country. I went to Iraq and served a year over there. You get to see all sorts of gross and nasty things that weak people never could handle. It's easy to armchair a war when your not there. It's also easy to armchair a tradgedy years after it's happened. This post was not, and is still not for your self entitled opinions on what happened that day or any other.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-09-11 12:39:51 UTC
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.
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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-09-11 12:40:11 UTC
No disrespect to anyone who was involved in the tragedy, but why make a thread about 9/11 on the EVE GD forum? :/

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#25 - 2013-09-11 12:40:20 UTC
Pinochets coup was truly an atrocity. Never forget.

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#26 - 2013-09-11 12:44:01 UTC
Requiescat in pace, Sean Smith (Vile Rat) - 9/11/2012, Benghazi, Libya.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2013-09-11 12:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
J3ssica Alba wrote:
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.
We did, it's called imposing "democracy" on countries that don't have it, or may have it but don't suit policy, and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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Tron 3K
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Caldari State
#28 - 2013-09-11 12:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tron 3K
RAIN Arthie wrote:
I was in school when 9/11 happened. That day i decided to join the US Army and fight for my country. I went to Iraq and served a year over there. You get to see all sorts of gross and nasty things that weak people never could handle. It's easy to armchair a war when your not there. It's also easy to armchair a tradgedy years after it's happened. This post was not, and is still not for your self entitled opinions on what happened that day or any other.

"weak"? Poor usage of words. Thats like saying you were an idiot so you joined the army while most of us with some sort of intelligence stayed here and didn't police the world.

I'm guessing you were a marine with this attitude

*EDIT* Like to clear up I have nothing against people that "fight for our country" (we haven't done that in a long time). I just don't like this crap we deal with that none of these were "wars" just us policing other countries where we shouldn't be.
Alara IonStorm
#29 - 2013-09-11 12:45:31 UTC
I stood on the top of one of those towers two weeks before they fell. I was just about 11 at the time.

I was back in Canada and in class when the teacher turned on the radio.
Tron 3K
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Caldari State
#30 - 2013-09-11 12:46:10 UTC
You do realize most the people we help "save" we put people in charge that later on down the road turn against us. Hmmm I think we shoudl stop doing that.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-09-11 12:48:08 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.
We did, it's called imposing "democracy" on countries that don't have it, or may have it but don't suit policy, and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


Actually I was thinking more of a burnt earth strategy and leaving heads on stakes driven into the ground in front of each destroyed village as an example. Democracy isn't medieval enough.
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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-09-11 12:49:42 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.


Eugh, that is some black and white retarted morals you have going on there.

Who is this *they* and *we*?

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#33 - 2013-09-11 12:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen I would like for you to take a moment of your time to remember the tragedy of 9/11. So I ask to please find the time to remember all who have perished on this day.

Well I'm from the UK, not the US, so I have to say I consider it a little distasteful that you think everyone globally should just stop to remember.
Do you stop on the 5th an 9th of august to remember the hundreds of thousands of innocent people that died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
When the US starts to care about the tragedies happening outside of their borders, especially the ones they caused themselves, I'll stop and think about their losses. Until then, while I agree it's a tragedy, I'll keep my day to myself.
EDIT: Oh and to clarify your current "caring" about oil producing countries isn't really the same thing.

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Andrea Griffin
#34 - 2013-09-11 12:50:56 UTC
Tron 3K wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Not to be snarky, but this is the one thing I don't believe anybody is ever going to forget.
We may never forget the people lost and how tragic this was but can't go around pissing in everyone's cheerios and not expect terrible things to happen.
Which is at odds with the founders of the country. They were quite adamant that we mind our own business and keep our noses out of everyone else's.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#35 - 2013-09-11 12:51:04 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen I would like for you to take a moment of your time to remember the tragedy of 9/11. So I ask to please find the time to remember all who have perished on this day.


It is indeed sad that 3000 plus people died, but why are their lives any more important the lives loves lost in hundreds of other places in the world throughout history at the hands of other people?

Do you remember the date of Tiananmen Square?
Or the 100 days of the Rwandan Genocide?


I bet you don't celebrate anyone's birthday either do you? Because then, to be fair, you would have to celebrate everyone's birthday.

It must be hard living in your head.

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#36 - 2013-09-11 12:52:59 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen I would like for you to take a moment of your time to remember the tragedy of 9/11. So I ask to please find the time to remember all who have perished on this day.


It is indeed sad that 3000 plus people died, but why are their lives any more important the lives loves lost in hundreds of other places in the world throughout history at the hands of other people?

Do you remember the date of Tiananmen Square?
Or the 100 days of the Rwandan Genocide?


I bet you don't celebrate anyone's birthday either do you? Because then, to be fair, you would have to celebrate everyone's birthday.

It must be hard living in your head.

I should imagine he celebrates the birthday of people he knows. He probably didn't know anyone killed in 9/11 however, and I think that's his point.

Just sayin'.

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Mandy Bonebright
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-09-11 12:54:47 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tron 3K wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Tron 3K wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
There was also more than one disaster on this daySad

Yes lets not forget baltec losing his virginity ;)

Still in disbelief he had enough money to pay that stripper...

More like she prolly felt pitty and then paid him afterwords.


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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-09-11 12:55:14 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.


Eugh, that is some black and white retarted morals you have going on there.

Who is this *they* and *we*?


they = moslems

we = everyone else
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#39 - 2013-09-11 12:57:23 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:

they = moslems

we = everyone else

People like you are the real victims of 9/11
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#40 - 2013-09-11 12:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
J3ssica Alba wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
They started a jihad, we should have replied with a Crusade. However the West has become weak and shortsighted. One day you will wake up and realize that your countries have been taken over from within and by then it will be too late.


Eugh, that is some black and white retarted morals you have going on there.

Who is this *they* and *we*?


they = moslems

we = everyone else

There is so much wrong with this post, the majority of Muslims find the extremists as distasteful as the majority of Christians find the Westboro Baptist Church and peadophile priests.

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