Player Features and Ideas Discussion

we need universe wide leagues and arenas to assure we can put our best ships to use in some competitive gaming environment

seeing those best ships going down each day on the killboard, ganked by some kids who are just jealous because they don't have the same tech is rediculous

people are grinding for ages just to loose their ships within seconds? there is no point for that except the gleeful

all ships in the hangar should be usable in those arenas as often as you want

you still should be able to loos the ship in some SoV PvP or ganking action, however it would be way different when you have been able to get some real fights with it before that

at the moment PvP is just searching for the weak and easy target, nobody takes up real challanges 30 vs. 1, 5 year old players vs. 3 month old newbs, its all about punching down the weak and not about taking risk and challanges

arenas and leagues would change it all and bring the competitive gaming crowd to the game

it would not change a thing on the economy because its just an addidional gamemode, you could still loose your ship when grinding in nullsec, get ganked when doing missions or in SoV fights

it would even encourage people to use some ships out there more often because when you got the feeling you did already some fights with it in arenas, you feel more confident going out there with it

it would just add to the game

you want something like alliance tourny? but then perma? like a arena system or so?

How do you see the rules then if i may ask?

ppl with roughly the same skills/ship setup can engage each other?.

Try using the search function.

Arenas and 'safe' PvP instances have been proposed before..... always shot down because they are not in line with Eve's 'nowhere is safe' ethos.


Also, PvP without the loss of ships is worthless and will ruin Eve's economy.

SiSi does not help at all, there are no leagues no arenas, you are not put together with others in teams, there is no gamemode for this, you can just go there with your frig and fight a titan, that does not make sense

a real league needs to be putup ingame so people are put together randomly to fight, no searching for fleet or people, you just be put together with others... and the gamemode puts you in the fleet with others, check out Starcraft or other games, thats how its done

it would be perfect to use those mechanics in EvE, at the moment a lot of that potential is just unused in this game

its the perfect game for leagues and arenas, would perfectly fit into the universe

it would not change a thing on the economy because its just an addidional gamemode, you could still loose your ship when grinding in nullsec, get ganked when doing missions or in SoV fights

it would even encourage people to use some ships out there more often because when you got the feeling you did already some fights with it in arenas, you feel more confident going out there with it

it would just add to the game

Yeah sure. Until people complain that pvp without any reward is boring and don't bother to show up anymore (has happend in the past, e.g. look at the number of participants WOW's arenas had when rating requirements locked the average player out of buying arena reawards - there's a reason they removed ratings from all non-cosmetic items).

So now you have to come up with a rewardsystem that does not screw over people uninterested in arena. Which is quite difficult, as creating a system where all rewards gained in the arena are limited to the arena environment isn't terribly motivating either. That was one of the reasons GW2's arena system had issues, you ended up grinding days and days for a shiny pvp armor and then were unable to wear it in PvE or even world PVP.

At the same time purely cosmetical rewards have been failed to provide enough motivation to keep people interested long-term (which is why many pvp systems in MMO's rely on special "pvp"-stats, resilience in WOW, expertise in SWTOR, PVP combat rating in DCU....). While I haven't played many FPS games in the last few years, it is my understanding that eve a large number of online shooters have decided to reward combat participation with e.g. access to better weapons (that can alternatively be bought in some kind of cash shop), further illustrating the point that "static instant pvp without character developement, Unreal Tournament Style" fails to provide long-term motivation. And that's not what you want either; you want everyone to be on equal footing, so motivating people by unlocking the Tengu in arenas as a reward for their 100th win isn't the way to go.

All these changes come with a clusterfuck of side problems; people wanting to queue with their friends, people pissed because the people that queued with their friends roflstomp them due to being more organized, people botting or idling semi-afk in arenas because they want rewards but are unwilling to go through the effort of earning them...

And you believe that CCP can handle all those problems (that frequently cause headaches for far larger studios that specialize in making those types of games) without taking resources from the regular developement team, when they can't even spare the manpower to fix various UI-atrocities currently ingame, such as the POS-handling or the PI-UI?