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Lying About Identity No Longer Allowed Under EULA

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Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#221 - 2013-09-10 18:53:53 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Kismeteer wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
OK fill me in here, is this something I need to care about or has it been fixed and it's just grr goons vs grr carebears until the thread gets locked?


Sadly, we have a few lawyers in goonwaffe, so sometimes we take exception at poor word choices in Terms of Service, which could be used against our membership as well as other entities. The banning of representing NPC groups is particularly bad for MOA and CVA, for instance.



WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK



Who is we....."exactly" and why are you so angry.
Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#222 - 2013-09-10 18:54:34 UTC
Baaldor wrote:
Remedial's back?


Very nice.

JinSanJong wrote:
WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK


Sorry you got scammed last year bud, it's okay, it's a video game.
Esharan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#223 - 2013-09-10 18:55:31 UTC
Kismeteer wrote:
Why does the TOS now directly say that impersonating an NPC group is against the TOS?

What will happen to groups like Mordus Angels and CVA who say they work for the pirate and empire factions Mordus and Amarr respectively? Are they going to be required to change their Role-Playing schtic immediately?

Why is it now against the rules to say 'I work with The Mittani' when only the 'I am The Mittani' was actionable before? This is a major policy shift.

Can I petition people for saying they'll double my isk because they are not actually in the isk doubling group?

How does a person like Mr Omni 'prove' that he represents a rental alliance for goonwaffe when he's in another alliance? He's as a listed contact in the alliance info, is that enough?

Why did it take so long to address the issue of getting a discussion item for a news announcement, which traditionally announced at the same time?



Um...Mordus Angels is not a role play corp fyi - just has a cool name breh.
Lady Areola Fappington
#224 - 2013-09-10 18:57:00 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:

But should this be for CCP to handle with a banhammer, or up to the player who's reputation is being tarnished to deal with in-game? Surely Chribba's alt would not be flying around the other side of the universe with a two billion ISK bounty for a simple start.

There is also a distinction to be made between a bold claim to be Chribba's alt, which Chribba could easily discount in his own bio, and making a character named Chrlbba in an attempt to impersonate him.


My thought process was "Saying you are someone's alt is basically saying you are them, and saying you are specifically someone else should be actionable". I mean, I've earned my reputation for being terribad at EVE fair and square, I don't want anyone running around and being a GUDPVPR under my name.

It's really really edge case though, and I understand the argument going the other direction, it's just as valid.

I wouldn't cry if CCP reworded things, and said "It's OK to say you are someone else specifically, just don't use the name system".

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#225 - 2013-09-10 18:57:14 UTC
Esharan wrote:
Um...Mordus Angels is not a role play corp fyi - just has a cool name breh.


From their corp info: "We are a NPC ALLIANCE living in PURE BLIND KILLING GOONIES AND THEIR PETS FOR 7 YEARS NOW! If interested in joining this enterprise, contact for inquiries, PEEPS & CORPS likeminded are welcome." (bold mine, caps theirs)

Representing themselves as an NPC Alliance, now illegal under the new TOS.
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#226 - 2013-09-10 19:01:36 UTC
Hi there,

I've been away from Eve for a couple of weeks, is there a TL:DR of all the latest drama and threadnaughts someone will helpfully post?

Cheers.
CCP Falcon
#227 - 2013-09-10 19:02:02 UTC

A GM response has been posted here to clarify the changes in wording.

I'm going to close this thread now, we'll leave the sticky linked above open for discussion, so please keep comments and suchlike there so that we can pick them up and take them on board.

Thanks for your patience while we discussed this guys, it's very much appreciated.

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