EVE General Discussion

This already happens quite often when you scam a dude who happened to buy all of that isk from some website.

Guess everyone in eve should be banned including ISD and CCP characters as everyone is impersonating EvE Online
factions.

The wording of the TOS is nonsense. Does this means roleplayers like myself or CVA will be banned?

To start this off on the right foot, ill start with this quote

ISD LackOfFaith:

[quote ]Abuse cases are investigated on a case by case basis by the GM team. If you have a specific case or example you would like to bring up with them, or to have clarified, please file a support ticket. It's always better to ask first when serious EULA/ToS violations are on the line.

CCP are aware of the general response and confusion over the change, having seen it themselves and been briefed by ISD CCL. They have not made a response yet, but I'm sure they will when they are ready to.[/quote]


I had zero issue with The impersonation of ccp employee's part on the change to tos. However by changing the tos in the manner in which is had, Does it not that significantly change the meta game around. Before gm's just had your rename a corporation or player if it was impersonating a corp, alliance, or another player.

By changing the game rules from something of the context for disciplinary action against players in the Naming Policy applies to blatantly offensive names. To now in the TOS, which can include everything up to Full perm Ban for any impersonation is just highly uncalled for.

And with the quote above added to the picture. Many Players have checked in the past to see if something was legal justification or not. However The legal justification for the fringe meta gaming depended on individual gms until there was to much community backlash (on a approved by gm concept) to you will be banned for doing it. One Major example is what is refferd to as the boomerang exploit, in the begging it was a fully legal thing, now you cant in high sec / was ban-able before the fix went into place.

So in the end, Why blur the line and move something that's been legitimized to the possibly for a full outright ban option. after all eve is harsh. why should any part of the game become coddled. (After all there is still the rule you cant scam / trick bran new players)

Looks like Surner Bank made the wrong kid cry at the right time.

Honestly I am against scams that involve RL goods/service or tricking someone into using RL money for plex for isk so that you can kill and loot them(RIP silly Hel), but other than having leave people alone. Don't get me wrong there is blame on both sides, don't fly what you can't lose. Also, why pay ransom if they can blow you up anyway after the have the isk, pizza, or whatever.

Now about things that only effect your space pixels: If someone wants to trick someone by using a "rn" in place or an "m", meh. Look at your contracts, check spelling, check references, and don't buy items to fill an order on the market with a minimum buy order over one.

I'm by no means a vet, but I love that I have to watch out for scams. If it wasn't for that kind of thing in Eve, who knows, I might be a panda instead.

So, forgive me for offering a completely unsophisticated idea here but how about we use the following principle when it comes to impersonation: pay attention.

It's your interaction, you're responsible for it. Keep your eyes peeled, look at who you're talking to, look at what they're selling you and be mindful of where you are and what's in your hold.

How about that for an idea?

This is EVE, it's not something I do myself, but we're going to ban lying now? At what point do we need to have a lawyer next to us who's going to determine we're not crossing the boundaries of the EULA?

You can't misrepresent yourself as a member of CCP? CCP members have their name in blue, they are a member of a specific corporation and they're not going to bother you for ISK. If you fall for that kind of scam you deserve to get fleeced. The scam is the price of the lesson.

EVE is the game of consequences, I know all about that, scamming and subterfuge is what makes it so fiendishly attractive.

There is nothing wrong with EVE and player interaction that can't be fixed with a very simple, elegant remedy: pay attention.

How about we try that for a while?

You guys must be daft. Here, I'll quote this so you can unwind your panties elsewhere.



You've got your answer. Nothing is changing, nothing has been done to enforce this, so try to wash off the sand out of your cooches.

Name one person who's gotten banned by the changes in the EULA.
I'll go to bed now, since there is no point in me staying up for you to come up with a name.

You do when you get banned

So the rules changed and you cannot scam using someone elses identity/corp name. I dont see a point why all the rage because of this change. I think that this is very good. I would be pretty p!ssed off if someone would use my identity/corp name to scam other people and destroy my reputation / good name (hypothetically).

Will this mean I can no longer to threaten to log on to my fictitious ISD alt when the help channel gets out of control?