EVE General Discussion

Good point, yeah. Highsec mining tends to bring out the passion on both sides of the line. Agree to disagree and such.


The only things the rorq can do that the orca can't is clone vat, and compression. Clone vat isn't really needed in high, and compression should stay in null.


In the end, you have a less useful Orca that costs more to fly around. (Orca flight bay isn't industrial ship specific.)

Rorqual makes a great transport for stuff. Maybe not assembled ships, but I always use mine to ferry stuff from 0.0 up to low sec. Especially ore, loot from ratting and so on. Cheaper than a Jump Freighter, and can actually defend itself up to a point. Battle Rorquals can be quite effective if set up correctly since they have a great drone bonus.

You realise that compression is not what high seccers want though right? Rorquals compression is an ore based lossy compression. It loses you some of the minerals, but it's to help you mine in places you don;t have a refinery and easily ship to a refinery. High sec has a decent refinery in most constellations, so unless you suck at picking your mining location, you'll have a nearby refinery. Once it's in mineral form compression is done through manufacture, not in a rorq, then it's shipped by freighters.
You also don't need a clone vat bay in high sec, as you have no need to jump to a rorq.

There's plenty of corps that allow you to install jump clones anywhere free of charge.

Shipping is not an issue, because you can (relatively) safely use a freighter to ship ore is massive volumes.

This leads to the conclusion that the thing high seccers want from the rorq is the superior boosting ability, so they can pull more m3/hour in high sec, further diminishing the usefulness of low/null sec mining.

Honestly, with the new ore changes dumping pockets of high end or in high sec at random, and the barge/exhumer improvements, high sec mining is already too powerful at low risk. And it only takes a quick glance at the trend of tritanium (or most minerals to be honest) to see that.

There's absolutely no need for or reason to bring the Rorq into highsec, and if it were allowed in, it would have to be nerfed into something much smaller and less capable anyway, which would probably just **** off all Rorq owners.

So maybe the best solution would be to create a new, smaller ship. They could even name it after some smaller kind of cetacean. Like the Porpoise, or maybe the Orca.

Here's the godhonest truth why highsec miners want a Rorq. Sure, we break it down and everything but it all boils down to:

They have something I can't have, it's not fair.

Shalua Rui, I do like that idea of a hospital ship, that's kinda nifty. Drop it in F&I, maybe it'll go somewhere.

Fellow Miners of New Eden

We must untie! Throw off the shackles of our imperialist oppressors (CCP) and join with me. Together, we will force CCP to change the game so we can all get an extra 10% (?) yield on tritanium.

Then when trit prices fall 10% (and we are making the same amount of isk/hr as we were before the changes we whined for) we can rage-quit en-masse over our overpriced fleet boosters.

Hell, let's just cut out the middle man and all rage quit right now!!!!

I'd like to see New Eden survive without our provided content. What will the denizens of the new order do for entertainment? How will ice be mined without us? Goons will have nobody to interdict. How will the mission runners cope with their massively increased income, after gun mining becomes the only way to get minerals?

CCP will be forced to change their game just to keep it balanced, so if every single miner in New Eden rage-quits right now then logically CCP will have to allow Rorqual in hi-sec.


There, I think I made this post on the same level as the OP.

Here is another use for a Rorqual!

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/47382-Rorqual-The-Gankqual.html

Here is another:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/67662-Rorqual-Ratting-Rorq-OMFG-WTF.html

I was thinking the other day, a bunch of us should gank fit our Rorqs and Hotdrop someone. It would expensively hilarious.

Shiver.... A Rorq in empire? No. The Orca is practically useless as it is.

I'm quite happy with the way things are now. I'm not running an alliance anymore so my ops are usually small three pilot ops in low sec pockets. I've done some high sec mining... but not much.

I think things are fine. Especially with the new industrial ship types. We'll probably not be using Iteron V's very much any more.

The new ship types are also great for 0.0 ops, if only used locally for moving ore/minerals around.

You can already have Rorqs in empire space — just not in highsec.

These ships have so many cool uses.
But what is this about mining boosts? New one on me. I will pass that news on to the corp miner that we will no doubt recruit any day now.