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Character name changes, Sometimes OK sometimes not?

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#41 - 2013-09-09 08:03:56 UTC
Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored.
It is already possible to put up fake charackter sale threads to disguise to holder of the toon.

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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-09-09 08:50:49 UTC
Name changes? Never.

Old name deletion? Never. If you didn't manage to snag a good name like "LOL", you do not deserve it.

Reputation following from bazaar? Buyer beware.
Cpt Tirel
Institute For Continuous Glory
#43 - 2013-09-09 09:00:09 UTC
Just charge real money for namechange instead of PLEX to prevent rich people from changing their name every other week.
Sarmatiko
#44 - 2013-09-09 09:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored.

Are you blind or something? Name change log available even in China now. If some idiot recruit officer or director invites shady dude and gives him corp privileges without even gathering basic information (such as previous names) - he deserves to be scammed.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-09-09 09:22:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
John Ratcliffe wrote:
The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different.


Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner.
CCP Spitfire wrote:
The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner.

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Miles Parabellum
Core Collapse Inc
#46 - 2013-09-09 09:25:17 UTC
Why not just take this to the logical extreme and allow skill points to be traded as a commodity?

... It's what people want, but don't know how to say.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-09-09 09:32:57 UTC
I love this thread, so far it seems all the people that are against haven't bothered to actually read the thread before replying.
Claiming that it can be abused even though several posters have suggested several times that there should be a naming history.

Honestly i couldn't see the bad part... i don't know spanish and my name means Hard Ass... i mean cmon.

All CCP would have to do is to add another tab to the character sheet, which is named something like "Name History", i don't see how it could become a problem if you got a name history on characters.

On another note, i don't get why CCP doesn't do this, it would be a great way for them to earn more irl isk.

As other people stated there's the character bazaar...
So you could just sell your character... and buy a new one, but that's okay right?
But something like changing your name while it actually get's branded on you wouldn't?

I'm sorry but that does not really seem like a reasonable argument to NOT to implent a character renaming service.
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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-09-09 09:43:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Cpt Tirel wrote:
Just charge real money for namechange instead of PLEX to prevent rich people from changing their name every other week.


Implying that rich people are actually poor.

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#49 - 2013-09-09 09:48:56 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
my name meant 'son of a *****' in finnish


Hemmo is a regular male name nothing odd there, at most it could be considered somewhat old fashioned. The second part is where issues might rise. But please note that the word isn't from the worse end of the spectrum. It can even be used to convey positive connotations in select situations.

Also a slightly more accurate translation would be shithead.

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#50 - 2013-09-09 10:01:25 UTC
More important than name changes, CCP should purge a couple hundred thousand characters from the database to release their names for use. After 10 years, so many characters have been made, only to be biomassed again, or on accounts that have not been used in five years. I assume millions of people have tried EVE at some point and used up good names, only to realize after two days that EVE is not for them.

How about they rename every character that has not been on an active account for more than three years and has less than 10m skillpoints. I bet that would be several million names. The old chars would continue to exist, with names like GallenteCitizen12345678 but their former names become available for new characters.

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Mycool Jahksn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-09-09 11:06:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mycool Jahksn
I say character renaming should be possible as long as it's costly and not done more often than once every two-three years perhaps and ONLY if there's a history log where you can easily see what the previous name was.

Like in my case it says:

Mycool Jahksn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Under my portrait.

Under Likes received: 42 there could be a link that says: character name history or whatever.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#52 - 2013-09-09 11:41:59 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
More important than name changes, CCP should purge a couple hundred thousand characters from the database to release their names for use. After 10 years, so many characters have been made, only to be biomassed again, or on accounts that have not been used in five years. I assume millions of people have tried EVE at some point and used up good names, only to realize after two days that EVE is not for them.

How about they rename every character that has not been on an active account for more than three years and has less than 10m skillpoints. I bet that would be several million names. The old chars would continue to exist, with names like GallenteCitizen12345678 but their former names become available for new characters.


Even if we limit this to trial accounts that never subscribed that would still free up a lot of names.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-09-09 13:14:17 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different.


Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner.
CCP Spitfire wrote:
The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner.


Yes but on the other hand, the other way of reputation is still there no amtter if the character has been sold or not. If someone buy a character with a not so good reputation, he can't really shed it off even if he start tellign everybody the character was bought. You can't gain from the past reputation but you have a lot to lose from it when dealing on the bazzar.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-09-09 20:25:27 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
There is also one extremely strong argument in favour of allowing name changes that I very rarely see discussed, and that is how transsexual players or players who have recently accepted a change in their sexuality identify with their characters. With trans players, I am told (and believe) that this is very powerful issue for them.

Yeah....

Right....

Top of the list of things to worry about, I'm sure....

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-09-09 20:34:36 UTC
I can understand the consequences thing... you're an awoxer and should have to live with that. Cool. But if I buy a character, I'm not that player. The consequences unfairly fall on me instead of the scallywag they should. I don't know all the ins/outs of random renaming, but it seems like every character that is purchased should have its name and probably corp history reset. Of course, then some tool will pay the plex or whatever it is to wash his character and foil my plans. I hate that guy already.

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Azurae
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-09-09 20:35:11 UTC
Ayced Anneto wrote:
Hey, first time posting so this may or may not be correctly categorized.

Some time ago I spoke to the customer support about name changes, asking them if it was possible. (Although I pretty much knew it was not)
They responded to me with this following message:
Quote:
GM correspondence removed as our forum rules do not allow posting of such content, CCP Phantom
Yet trading(selling/buying) characters is allowed? Personally I don't care for **** about my reputation yet I am bothered with my name being nearly identical to my alternative characters giving other players several advantages in game.

Will character name changes ever be available?
I'd pay for it and I'm sure there are others who would

petition your own alts for impersonating your main. problem solved
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2013-09-09 20:46:05 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different.


Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner.
CCP Spitfire wrote:
The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner.


Yes but on the other hand, the other way of reputation is still there no amtter if the character has been sold or not. If someone buy a character with a not so good reputation, he can't really shed it off even if he start tellign everybody the character was bought. You can't gain from the past reputation but you have a lot to lose from it when dealing on the bazzar.



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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-09-09 21:19:29 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored.

That is probably one of the stupidest arguments I've heard yet against this.

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Reckless Ourtomineng
#59 - 2013-09-09 21:23:32 UTC
Just be sure to not impersonate someone else.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#60 - 2013-09-09 21:40:18 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:

Seriously though, CCP isn't going to make it possible to change your name.


It's already quite possible. Name your character something like 'Homo Jesus,' and CCP will be along rather quickly to hook you up with a brand new name.