EVE General Discussion

You know that there is an option in EVE to disable missile effects ? And turret effects ? And ship explosions ? Etc.

You just lost a big occasion to shut up...

You clearly missed a big opportunity to spot irony.


Point still stands, this animation is amongst the most harmless ones in Eve. How do you guys feel about flying frigates then? If this little camera turn really makes you physically sick you should reconsider playing any video games.

I seriously doubt that you were ironic, but let's admit you were... Then your point don't stand, because it is logical that even the less harmful feature can hurt if you have to encounter it all the time. Maybe you love see your ship spinning in station, but it is not my case, I prefer undock and move =) Well, "prefered" because since the expansion, I can't jump as I want. And there is not only the camera swing (that CCP improved a bit) that is annoying in this animation.

About the frigates, I use them only to move some bpc/bpo fastly and securely. To fight, I only used cruiser-size ships at minimum (my combat account is closed since the expansion). In short, as Eve offered me ways to reduce the annoyances by just adapting a few my game style and visual features, I adapted, but even adaptation has limits. I just can't avoid jumping.

Most of the options are disabled in my Eve client. Drones, turrets effects, camera shake, trails, etc and I won't speak about graphics... I just miss one "Jump animation" option.

Turn it off.

Apparently he feels that people getting worked up over this are exaggerating the issue and likely were looking for reasons to complain anyway... and that their main problem is that they simply don't like the new animation but choose to try and justify it by playing the sympathy card.

It doesn't really matter what "he" thinks though... what matters is what CCP thinks.

They think that the best solution is to improve the animation, smooth it out, to remove any realistic objection to it (and any physical issues it might cause).

If you believe they are incorrect that is between you and them, but don't expect people to go easy on you in here in the meantime.

It wasn't for me but I will give a response to your post...

So... It is not between some of us and them. It is between CCP and reality. If it was possible to resolve any physical issues that can generate a video game, then there wouldn't be any options to change the FOV or whatever else in most of the games in 2013.

The fact is that it is just impossible whatever the amount of effort a video game company can offer to deal with it. The best a company can do, is offering options and workarounds to be sure that most of the players can be satisfied. If CCP think they can do the impossible, that means that they didn't thank about the potential consequences of this animation in the first place and still have no idea of what means a first-person view...

Still, I have to praise CCP because - if the patch notes is right - then they really TRY to solve this problem, but they are just plain wrong about the way to go, and so they will fail at the end.

The most ridiculous point of this situation is that improving the animation certainly cost more of time and money for an uncertain result, than adding an option who give a simple fade-to-black transition or whatever easy workaround that could be imagined to close this case. CCP see the idea of an option as a "cop-out", I hope they will change their minds very soon.

Yes, that's great for you. Just keep going on and playing the game you love because the issue has no impact on you.

In the meantime I have a disability to contend with, which has made playing very difficult since this was added. It's "harmless" to you, but for me, the movement with rapidly changing colours can lead to a not-so harmless seizure. Maybe I should just HTFU though and deal with it, after all, if you can't put up with being in hospital every now and again from playing your favourite game you're clearly not a worth pilot

Your "point" doesn't stand, because you're assuming everyone is as able as you and can play without an issue. This isn't a case of "reconsidering video games" because we don't fit into your perfect mould of a human being.

If you were to meet me in my wheelchair, would you tell me to reconsider going out because I might encounter stairs? No, you'd STFU and realise how lucky you are to be able to make judgemental comments on an internet forum without any recourse behind an anonymous face.

I've kept an active sub in the hope this feature gets added although I rarely log on and certainly don't have much activity. Tell you what: I'll start playing again if you'll agree and put a nice deposit upfront for any medical bills I might endure as the result of a seizure cause by it.

Even though you're clearly a peasant, I honestly hope from the bottom of my heart you never have a serious disability. Everything you take for granted quickly vanishes and the harsh cold would you think New Eden is looks like a lovely day out in the park. If you ever do though, I hope that you think back to telling others what they should "reconsider" doing, when quite frankly, life can already be hard enough.

Point of view? Where did I say it was the point of view that causes an issue?

It's the rapid changing of colours around the edge of the tunnel effect. It's all relative, what's "trivial" to you clearly isn't to others. Myself included. This thread hasn't got 70+ pages for such a "trivial" issue.

Camera shake disablement was added as an option because the 'trivial' movement caused issues for people.



Because all of those effects can be turned off. Options -> disable the checkboxes = Eve is amazing for me.



Actually the 'responsibility' lies with both parties in most western counties. TV and movies have very strict laws on labelling and what can be broadcast which means 'we' are generally fairly safe. Take the London 2012 advert that gave people seizures - according to you, the responsibility rests solely with the people watching it. Nonsense.

All these tangents are ridiculous though. My point was very simple and clear: The HTFU attitude that people seem to kick around with the issue is laughable. Do you know how many of of would like to 'harden up' regarding the issue? What we'd give to be able to do so?

No one is asking for features to be altered or removed in the way that people like them. We'd like an option in the menu in the same way we have a camera shake option. That's it, nothing more.

Are you an MD? Maybe an EMT or a nurse?
You have to be Dr. House do be able to diagnose such "trivial" issues remotely.



Because before CCP made this unnecessary change, he was playing this game just fine?
And now he wants the game to be playable again?



Which is why we (the affected people) avoid watching these. Personally, I avoid FPSes, but can play Tetris just fine. Or EVE, if I am not looking at the sewer tunnel animation, that is.



No, responsibility for the decision to make the game unplayable for some of us lies with the specific devs who coded this.
When I prepaid my subscription (with a CC, a year ahead), I had no way to know the game will add a new, annoying feature that will trigger my migraine. Makes sense, bro?



As a matter of fact, you are absolutely right in one of your earlier posts. It does not matter what you think/post, because you are not CCP. You are just an internet tuff guy who is posting on the forums hundreds of times per day (maybe you should get help? - but I digress).
I just hope they have more sense than that. After all, it IS a minor effect, and giving us a checkbox can't be hard.

Turn. It. Off.