EVE New Citizens Q&A

Mining is very low income, no matter what you're mining in.

Upgrade from the Venture are the Mining Barges. Procurer and Retriever are the two you probably want to look at, depending whether you want a better tank or a larger ore hold.

Rob somebody, high income, low effort.

If you're having fun mining, then go for it. Check out local trade hubs (especially Jita 4-4) for prices on new mining ships and send out a search on google for mining guides as there are tons of information out there.

The more experienced and skilled you get in the game the more isk you'll make no matter what you're doing. IMO the order for making isk is: mining, pvp, pve, industry and finance. Where pvp fits in is questionable, I'm not exactly sure how much on average is made due to the high demand for replacement ships.

Battleclinic has some good, and some bad, fittings for you to look through.

gl, and fly safe.

..My phone threw up on the forums. Sorry for the double post. My original post is below.

your recommendation would be if you wanted to go the PvP route..correct?

...Wait, what? You're calling mining boring and encouraging someone to pick up missionrunning instead?




Or high-end pewpew PVE (incursions, wormholes).

Regardless, mining is sort of the grunt work for the industry side of the game. If your interests lie more in that area, then look into manufacturing, PI and stuff like that

Depends on what you define pvp as...... there are many forms of pvp in eve with the obvious being ship to ship combat.


"Experience is the teacher of anything" - Cicero Roman Statesman.

If you still on tryal account, you can
1. abandon your current account,
2. create new one using the best offer from local buddy programs.
3. use up to 450 mio isk you will get from some of them to get all and any ships you can fly , so you can try out all ways how to make isk.
4. Stick with mining, missioning, trade, faction war - what ever you will find most entertaining for you. Just ignore exploration - it is killed as ISK making option by one of the last game updates...

So my name is no one then ;)

To be honest its pretty cool to get a belt full of very nice big ore, start mining from left to right and clear all the belt. Mining OPS (mining with a group of players) is also very nice if you like to talk some to your in game friends about eve and other things. And then ofcourse the laser show (the only good laser in Eve is a mining laser ;) ) Also if you come in a new corp or feel like chatting on channels, mining is the best option, you got enouf time to chat while mining!

So mining is cool, if you do it only for making isk as fast if you can it is not the best option. Just think for yourself, what do i like to do in this game? Please remember to do only the things you realy like, that way you get the most out of this game.

Good luck in game! (the max high sec miner ship, exhumer is the name of the hull and "HULK" is the ship. Awsome ship with 3 big ass mining strippers who will get that ore faster in your ship then everything els :) Remember to ask someone in your corp or a friend to refine the ore with the right skills, that way you get the maximum minirals out of your ore.

I think that no matter what you chose as your "making isk" activity it will get better when your skills get better.
Neither mining nor missions are profitable when you don't have skills to use and/or get max out of your equipment.

But it gets better. You get 1% here, 2% there, you upgrade to t2 damage mod, you can fly faster, hit harder, rep better. With time you get very close to 100% of what is possible to get from ship and mods. But it takes time to get there and we are taking months or even years (assuming getting to V all supports for everything you fly and use to make isk).

I remember when I run my first L4 mission and I was like "whaaat? 1.5 mil bonus? and 4.5k LP? wow!". It took me almost 2hrs to finish that mission. Smash The Supplier when I got it first time took me almost 5 hrs. Now? I farm this mission by killing everything and cleaning wrecks with noctis under 1 hour and that is approx 40mil in tags alone. Another mission like that is In The Midst Of Deadspace 5. First time it was a drag because of ECM (which in fact is applied only by 2 cruisers and can be dealt with within 2 minutes). Now? It is 20 minutes killing everything and 10 minutes of noctis cleaning wrecks - also 40+ mil from tags. So each of those two missions nets me around 250 - 300 mil (depending on current prices) and all I have to do is just log in for 1 hour 7 days in a row.

My alt is just getting into mining. Retriever with basic stuff and skills = 3-4mil per hour (hisec, drilling azure plegio because I have no idea WTF is going on). For a newbie maybe it is a lot but I can get more from running 10 minutes L4. Hell, blitz through Recon 1-3 in 5 minutes would give me more without single shot. Now, I have t2 lazors and crystals and mining upgrades and I just had quick mining session when I filled up my ore hold to max within 25 minutes (I timed it from undock to dock) and sold it for 3.2 mil. Still pennies comparing to L4s but there is progress.

"Problem" with mining is that there is a limit when you just can't get more without others. Either you have to join corp's fleets and use their boosts or get to better ore (meaning leaving hisec for low/null) or play market really smart or everything above. And probably you still won't get ISK/hr like L4 runners can, maybe except that market pvp because people claim to get huge profits. But again, your skills AND experience are heavily factored into what you can get out of trading regardless of items you buy/sell.

My advice would be to try everything and see what is to your liking. It is a game after all, try to get some fun first.