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pve machariel mid slots (level 4 misisons)
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#41 - 2013-09-09 02:03:43 UTC
Ah I see, i'll load it in pyfa and see the tracking myself. That looks like all 5's sot its probably the same as shield tank with less DPS and less tracking.

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rusty532
Aiding and Abetting
#42 - 2013-09-09 02:06:27 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
rusty532 wrote:
Best answer: armor tank it.

[Machariel, Missioner Armor ]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Gist C-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I

1083 dps @ 4.2 + 69. Pimp as you see fit.


Whats your optimal, falloff, and tracking? And why no drones? 300 less DPS than mine?


1083 dps @ 4.2km + 69km. Read my friend. Tracking is .054 rad/s so you might have to learn how to use the approach and keep at a distance buttons and maybe put transversal on your overview. As for the magical 300 dps, add 4 sentries/5 med's etc etc according to mission.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-09-09 02:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
All proper PVE Machariel fits will have 4 gyros and 7 guns so will do the same DPS. Tracking and range can vary of course.

I'm not a fan of sentry drones with this ship because I like to keep moving and when your drones get attacked you have to fly back to pick them up. Maybe that's just me being lazy though.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#44 - 2013-09-09 02:24:38 UTC
Sorry that I missed that. It sacrifices 25% tracking, 84% tank, and 50% cap time for 7% range. That's with 800 boosters vs no boosters. Gets a lot more top speed though, although less acceleration. To each their own. Shocked

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rusty532
Aiding and Abetting
#45 - 2013-09-09 02:27:49 UTC
IIshira wrote:
All proper PVE Machariel fits will have 4 gyros and 7 guns so will do the same DPS. Tracking and range can vary of course.

I'm not a fan of sentry drones with this ship because I like to keep moving and when your drones get attacked you have to fly back to pick them up. Maybe that's just me being lazy though.


Yeah I'm the same and I usually cruise between blobs at 1.5km/s so sometimes I'm outrunning my medium drones. The armor version feels a bit hardier and when your on top of bs groups throw in 3 tracking scripts and your tracking at .1 rad/s. Requires more micromanagement than a shield fit but if you can keep up it can be better.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-09-09 02:35:58 UTC
rusty532 wrote:
IIshira wrote:
All proper PVE Machariel fits will have 4 gyros and 7 guns so will do the same DPS. Tracking and range can vary of course.

I'm not a fan of sentry drones with this ship because I like to keep moving and when your drones get attacked you have to fly back to pick them up. Maybe that's just me being lazy though.


Yeah I'm the same and I usually cruise between blobs at 1.5km/s so sometimes I'm outrunning my medium drones. The armor version feels a bit hardier and when your on top of bs groups throw in 3 tracking scripts and your tracking at .1 rad/s. Requires more micromanagement than a shield fit but if you can keep up it can be better.


Honestly I sold my Machariel because I got tired of all the micromanagement. That and I needed the ISK. Right now I'm in a Nightmare and I love it. Of course it's a bit more specialized to fight Sansha and Blood Raiders.
rusty532
Aiding and Abetting
#47 - 2013-09-09 02:59:18 UTC
IIshira wrote:
rusty532 wrote:
IIshira wrote:
All proper PVE Machariel fits will have 4 gyros and 7 guns so will do the same DPS. Tracking and range can vary of course.

I'm not a fan of sentry drones with this ship because I like to keep moving and when your drones get attacked you have to fly back to pick them up. Maybe that's just me being lazy though.


Yeah I'm the same and I usually cruise between blobs at 1.5km/s so sometimes I'm outrunning my medium drones. The armor version feels a bit hardier and when your on top of bs groups throw in 3 tracking scripts and your tracking at .1 rad/s. Requires more micromanagement than a shield fit but if you can keep up it can be better.


Honestly I sold my Machariel because I got tired of all the micromanagement. That and I needed the ISK. Right now I'm in a Nightmare and I love it. Of course it's a bit more specialized to fight Sansha and Blood Raiders.


Yeah you're more tied to Amarr hubs where a mach could do well in most hubs besides maybe caldari, guristas can be a bit of a grind.
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