EVE General Discussion

actually they're both puddings, it makes more sense that way

unfortunately once you had defeated the ogre and eaten a slice of pudding another ogre appeared and you couldn't have any more pudding

Isn't defeating more ogres more entertaining? Dealing with my mother is boring as hell.

Maybe you shouldn't have signed up for living in ogre land?

Some people like that sort of thing. If you don't, then you don't belong there.

I'd be straining to figure out what your point was if I thought you had one. I mean... I'm sure you probably think you do, but it's not looking good in analogy land.

But you're making the mistake of thinking you can balance one against the other. The same mistake most people that decided to come whine in the level 4 mission thread are making (and have made for years).

High sec and null sec both interact in the game economies, they both occur in the eve universe, but that's where the similarities end. YOU CAN NOT balance these parts of the game against each other, it won't work.

You can't even balance null lvl 4 missions against high sec lvl 4 missions. You can't balance low sec missions against either of them. They are separate games existing in completely different mechanical worlds.

What you do is you balance them independently. If there is a problem with the isk/min/whatever faucets in null, you point them out in an argument and equation all to themselves and you balance that mechanic.

If there is an imbalance to high sec missions, you identify the problem and the economic impact it's causing and you balance that mechanic..

Dividing these worlds and activities is the answer, not confusing them and trying to mix up your apples with your oranges. This is what CCP failed to understand when they let the faction warfare system's LP stores hold the same items as those in high sec and level 5 missions. It's a failing they made when they designed level 5 missions.

The solution isn't to mix the pot further, which is what many people here would do... with no great wisdom.

If there were any ANY reason to discuss isk making in null and isk making in high sec in the same thread you have to show where one is impacting the common element with the other... in this case it's isk/minerals/whatever. Which if it is true, you should be able to (need to be able to) make a case that XXX activity is killing economic balance within it's own system (be it high, or null or whatever)

it can be made without even discussing the other.

Comparing one to the other just displays a complete misunderstanding of how this game actually works.

While they're still on the same server, they have the same economy everyone else does.

The only remotely possible exception is wormhole space, those guys are some self sufficient mofos.

to make this clear, then

if you don't eat the pudding you'll starve

why would anyone choose the ogre pudding

because they want to fight the ogres

DUH!



do you even eve?

Yes, but you don't balance the activities against each other because the economy is where the similarity ends. Otherwise they are separate games being played by separate rules and mechanics... separate goals and mentalities.

If there ECONOMIC DAMAGE being caused by one, you should be able to show that without comparing it to other activities. Understand?

I can balance isk making in null.

I can balance isk making in high sec level 4 missions.

I can show the economic impact of each balance action and explain how it will impact the other!

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balance the two against each other.

It's a fools errand because they are different games entirely.

How will nerfing high make it easier to play in null then? You'll just have less high sec income to spend on null.

And nerfing incomes won't result in lower prices according to CCP. Prices aren't tied to the money supply.