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Incursion griefing getting kicked into high gear

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#361 - 2011-11-13 23:11:09 UTC
Alexandria Aesirial wrote:
Good stuff but it's funny that you are whining about the bears wardecking you. Grow some balls. Roll

wait...whining?

We thought it was hilarious. It was fun, profitable, AND we got to inadvertently grief all the neutral RR users via CCP's hasty and untested patch.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#362 - 2011-11-13 23:49:49 UTC
And also it's pretty cool being a thread that's nearly as well-read as one of the stickies.

Feeds my ego.
TalonKarrde84
Ysalamiri Ltd
#363 - 2011-11-14 02:16:51 UTC
In this thread:

Griefers exert great amounts of tryhard in an attempt to convince themselves and others that they are still relevant in highsec.

LolLolLolLolLol
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#364 - 2011-11-14 02:19:43 UTC
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.

Show me any other 12 dudes that are killing 120b in two weeks in highsec. Doesn't even have to be griefers. Hasn't happened in several years to my knowledge.
Andrei Taganov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#365 - 2011-11-14 02:25:00 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.


Quoted for truth.

~Andrei.
Pel Xadi
Doomheim
#366 - 2011-11-14 02:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Pel Xadi
Andrei Taganov wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.


Quoted for truth.

~Andrei.


Continue to massage your ego's as needs, its obvious you need it to supplement your feelings of inadequacy seeing that the facts in this matter are that you had to use a flawed mechanic to aceheive the above.

You'll probably try to claim originality here also even though it was somoene else who originally came up with the concept.

Skunworks simply went on to abuse it further, so really its not much of a claim is it?

Mind maybe you feel proud of useing flaws in the system to achieve your griefing purposes as opposed to legitamate means?

In the end all you have shown is that Skunworks are lazy cowards, especially with the transcripts supporting how you set supposed situations up and run away from conflict as it suits you, so if you want to continue patting yourselves on the back about this fact then feel free. Maybe your process of chinese water torture will finally convince you also, as if you weren't so unsure of your original flawed propoganda you wouldn't have to repeat it to yourselves ad nauseum for conviction.

The legend of Skunworks will live on in the memory of others for the legitimate reason as I have explained, largely griefing asshats, not because of some achievement you like to wave at each other with continually.

Happy for you to continue to propogate its history as needs, but don't deny the real truth behind it guys, that's just stupid. Oh wait, were talking about Skunkworks here, cognitive abilities of sheep.
Mythen
ANGELGARD.
The Initiative.
#367 - 2011-11-14 03:12:22 UTC
TalonKarrde84 wrote:
In this thread:

Griefers exert great amounts of tryhard in an attempt to convince themselves and others that they are still relevant in highsec.

LolLolLolLolLol


This guy was hilarious!!! I really think he must have lost something shiney to us. He spent a week spamming several channels from morning to night warning people of what we were doing. Even during this, people were still joining up in our fleets. I'm guessing many of them ignore his spamming. ;)

I hope you feel like you've accomplished something. I know I do!
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#368 - 2011-11-14 10:24:28 UTC
Sometimes you should read more forums, I honestly did not even notice this "war" against btl and incursion runners, but ok.

Now let me get this straight? Some dudes in armor hired some mercs to wardeck a few peeps. Those shrunk heads take than revenge but destroying the competition of those dudes and than declare victory over all incursion runners, which are as a whole more or less not affected at all by this?

Remove insurance.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#369 - 2011-11-14 12:43:30 UTC
Tenris Anis wrote:
Sometimes you should read more forums, I honestly did not even notice this "war" against btl and incursion runners, but ok.

Now let me get this straight? Some dudes in armor hired some mercs to wardeck a few peeps. Those shrunk heads take than revenge but destroying the competition of those dudes and than declare victory over all incursion runners, which are as a whole more or less not affected at all by this?

Not quite what happened, but close enough.

All bluster and trolling aside, we didn't have to "win" anything. We made lots of isk, had a good time, became moderately notorious, and got CCP to patch the game in order to stop us. THAT is all the win we need.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Dek'athor
Doomheim
#370 - 2011-11-14 13:37:23 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
, and got CCP to patch the game in order to stop us. THAT is all the win we need.

CCP making a patch to stop that exploit was a win for the carebares

Otherwise ther'd have been a ccp post stating "working as intended". Obv. it wasn't working as intended and carebares took the cake and ate it.









I'd be curious now to see what is the next exploit
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#371 - 2011-11-14 14:08:09 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

Not quite what happened, but close enough.

All bluster and trolling aside, we didn't have to "win" anything. We made lots of isk, had a good time, became moderately notorious, and got CCP to patch the game in order to stop us. THAT is all the win we need.


Fair game. And bet those armor dudes laughing their ass off right now, BUT still showed you have to run actually incursions in way that is fun for you. Guess I got trolled by your propaganda post a bit ... losing a few much should not hurt much even solo incursion runners, but still makes you guys rich enough to fly shinny too.

Anyway, should this patch not work in general for neutral logistics, so far I have seen far more complains about the mechanic in general, so why do you think, you are responsible for the change?

Remove insurance.

Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#372 - 2011-11-14 14:17:48 UTC
Dek'athor wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
, and got CCP to patch the game in order to stop us. THAT is all the win we need.

CCP making a patch to stop that exploit was a win for the carebares

Otherwise ther'd have been a ccp post stating "working as intended". Obv. it wasn't working as intended and carebares took the cake and ate it.









I'd be curious now to see what is the next exploit


Jamming, but that's a whole other issue. Lol
Gazmin VanBurin
Boma Bull Corp
#373 - 2011-11-14 16:53:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Gazmin VanBurin
Dek'athor wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
, and got CCP to patch the game in order to stop us. THAT is all the win we need.

CCP making a patch to stop that exploit was a win for the carebares

Otherwise ther'd have been a ccp post stating "working as intended". Obv. it wasn't working as intended and carebares took the cake and ate it.


I'd be curious now to see what is the next exploit


Your looking at it from the wrong perspective, think of it like this.

There is a giant pie dispenser that makes the best pie in the universe, but only CCP may eat its tasty treats, yet we find out a way to get the dispenser to give its pies to us. We all knew CCP would find out about it and fix their dispenser one day, but that doesn’t mean we didn't swipe enough pie for ourselves to last for months. So yes CCP fixed their dispenser much quicker than ever before, but we still win because we stole more of their pie than anyone has in a long time.

Oh and the carebears couldn't have won anything, because Carebears = delicious delicious pie
Kali Fin
White SANDS SPACE
#374 - 2011-11-14 19:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kali Fin
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.

Show me any other 12 dudes that are killing 120b in two weeks in highsec. Doesn't even have to be griefers. Hasn't happened in several years to my knowledge.


Two words...Suddenly Ninjas.

A few examples of their fine work:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7476951
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11287122
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7652579

Obviously they're a bit larger, but you get the picture.

I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#375 - 2011-11-14 19:20:44 UTC
Kali Fin wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.

Show me any other 12 dudes that are killing 120b in two weeks in highsec. Doesn't even have to be griefers. Hasn't happened in several years to my knowledge.


Two words...Suddenly Ninjas.

A few examples of their fine work:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7476951
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11287122
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7652579

Obviously they're a bit larger, but you get the picture.


Yup, they certainly do fine work. They've been doing it longer, with more people, and have a much more impressive brag sheet all told, and have pioneered a bunch of techniques that are common grief tools today, but per man hour I don't think it's too arrogant of me to say that our incursion ganks were the most efficient griefing in recent history.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#376 - 2011-11-14 19:21:19 UTC
Kali Fin wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.

Show me any other 12 dudes that are killing 120b in two weeks in highsec. Doesn't even have to be griefers. Hasn't happened in several years to my knowledge.


Two words...Suddenly Ninjas.

A few examples of their fine work:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7476951
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11287122
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7652579

Obviously they're a bit larger, but you get the picture.


Yup, they certainly do fine work. They've been doing it longer, with more people, and have a much more impressive brag sheet all told, and have pioneered a bunch of techniques that are common grief tools today, but per man hour I don't think it's too arrogant of me to say that our incursion ganks were the most efficient griefing in recent history.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#377 - 2011-11-14 19:36:12 UTC
Tenris Anis wrote:
And bet those armor dudes laughing their ass off right now,

Yeah they had a good couple of weeks where there weren't nearly as many shield fleets contesting their sites. They can claim all they want that we didn't have much impact, but I was in the incursion systems watching what kind of fleets were forming up and moving out.

Tenris Anis wrote:
Anyway, should this patch not work in general for neutral logistics, so far I have seen far more complains about the mechanic in general, so why do you think, you are responsible for the change?

The timing, the lack of testing, and the fact that the warning message isn't consistent with the purpose of the patch tells us this was thrown together in a hurry in a response to what we were doing. Unsurprisingly, when CCP pushes a patch out in a matter of days without testing, the patch breaks other stuff.

But hey, the incursion bears got what they were yelling for.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#378 - 2011-11-14 19:40:41 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Dek'athor wrote:
I'd be curious now to see what is the next exploit

Jamming, but that's a whole other issue. Lol

I've had an idea related to that that needs some theorycrafting and extensive testing. If I'm right you'll be seeing some hilarious fleet wipes in the future.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mr Bill Bravor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#379 - 2011-11-14 19:42:18 UTC
All I see going on here is "Wah, wah, somebody wardeced us after we ganked a few people. We will keep ganking because we are afraid of people fighting back."

Such pussies, either do it or don't. Nobody cares about you board drama.



Odemis
Death By Design
#380 - 2011-11-14 19:57:37 UTC
Mr Bill Bravor wrote:
All I see going on here is "Wah, wah, somebody wardeced us after we ganked a few people. We will keep ganking because we are afraid of people fighting back."

Such pussies, either do it or don't. Nobody cares about you board drama.






Talks huge.... posts with alt. Also says he doesn't care about this "board drama" but still takes a couple minutes out of his busy life to post. 2/10 sir. I've bumped you up from a 1 because I fealt the need to retort. Also Odemis = Main. Come at me bro