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With Odyssey 1.1 the Megathron has been dethroned
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Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#21 - 2013-09-08 22:43:02 UTC
Tarmaniel wrote:
Yeah, I don't think anyone will ever see a fleet of 250 of the same type of command ship, given the skill requirements.


But a 250 man HML Damnation blob would be positively hilarious.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-09-09 05:19:05 UTC
Ok, so I've been away for a year. Would someone please humor me and tell me how exactly the Megathron became 'throned' for fleets again? I know it got an extra low slot, but how did its performance change so as to be a fleet ship people actually use?

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-09-09 05:36:08 UTC
Hrett wrote:
Ok, so I've been away for a year. Would someone please humor me and tell me how exactly the Megathron became 'throned' for fleets again? I know it got an extra low slot, but how did its performance change so as to be a fleet ship people actually use?



It's pretty quick, when the de-tiered all of the battleships, mega got a huge agility and speed buff, so boosted you can run it double plated at around 1200m/s. It's does 400dps with a 175k eHP tank......you can trade tank for pew of course.

Couple that with the large trail tweek a while back and its pretty solid. Not the old sniper-thron it's kind of a different thing.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-09-09 17:46:37 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Hrett wrote:
Ok, so I've been away for a year. Would someone please humor me and tell me how exactly the Megathron became 'throned' for fleets again? I know it got an extra low slot, but how did its performance change so as to be a fleet ship people actually use?



It's pretty quick, when the de-tiered all of the battleships, mega got a huge agility and speed buff, so boosted you can run it double plated at around 1200m/s. It's does 400dps with a 175k eHP tank......you can trade tank for pew of course.

Couple that with the large trail tweek a while back and its pretty solid. Not the old sniper-thron it's kind of a different thing.



With lvl4 to resists in mechanics tree, dedicated armor skills to 5, fleet boosters, no hull/armor implants/combat boosters I get about 192K EHP down to 183+/- depending on booster skills level and without Erebus bonus too of course for CFC Mega fit.
Where did you got that 175K EHP thing?

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-09-09 18:27:12 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Hrett wrote:
Ok, so I've been away for a year. Would someone please humor me and tell me how exactly the Megathron became 'throned' for fleets again? I know it got an extra low slot, but how did its performance change so as to be a fleet ship people actually use?



It's pretty quick, when the de-tiered all of the battleships, mega got a huge agility and speed buff, so boosted you can run it double plated at around 1200m/s. It's does 400dps with a 175k eHP tank......you can trade tank for pew of course.

Couple that with the large trail tweek a while back and its pretty solid. Not the old sniper-thron it's kind of a different thing.



With lvl4 to resists in mechanics tree, dedicated armor skills to 5, fleet boosters, no hull/armor implants/combat boosters I get about 192K EHP down to 183+/- depending on booster skills level and without Erebus bonus too of course for CFC Mega fit.
Where did you got that 175K EHP thing?



Fitting window.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#26 - 2013-09-09 19:29:02 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

With lvl4 to resists in mechanics tree, dedicated armor skills to 5, fleet boosters, no hull/armor implants/combat boosters I get about 192K EHP down to 183+/- depending on booster skills level and without Erebus bonus too of course for CFC Mega fit.
Where did you got that 175K EHP thing?



Fitting window.



The fitting window in eve is inaccurate. It only shows the ehp from the worst resist on each level of HP...so for example, with no mods, you get the ehp with EM damage on the shield, and explosive damage on the armor. So basically absolute worst case scenario.

Fitting programs, by contrast, use the average EHP across all 4 damage types.

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-09-10 06:49:39 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

With lvl4 to resists in mechanics tree, dedicated armor skills to 5, fleet boosters, no hull/armor implants/combat boosters I get about 192K EHP down to 183+/- depending on booster skills level and without Erebus bonus too of course for CFC Mega fit.
Where did you got that 175K EHP thing?



Fitting window.



The fitting window in eve is inaccurate. It only shows the ehp from the worst resist on each level of HP...so for example, with no mods, you get the ehp with EM damage on the shield, and explosive damage on the armor. So basically absolute worst case scenario.

Fitting programs, by contrast, use the average EHP across all 4 damage types.


Yes I know, I also tend to lowball. Since not everyone runs with full comp skills and boosters.

175, for a double plated hull is a good run of the mill figure in that regard.
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