EVE General Discussion

It's like talking to dinosaurs about the Danger of asteroids and hering them reply "but the sky is clear now, so obviouosly it will always be so".

It was many many years since highsec last saw an ISK faucet nerf, and they have overall been very rare. The null nerfs have been quite numerous, on the other hand, and always for the same reason: because too much ISK was going into the system. A mission nerf has been on the agenda on many occasions, so presumably the need is there.

Just because the flood gates aren't open at this very instant doesn't mean it's a good idea to over-fill the pond…

…and the fundamental problem of blocking new activities and killing variety has been around since Exodus.

Your ingame activites don't preclude you from being a liar. You intentionally distort things people say trying to win an argument as if there were some kind of prize. You did it with me as if I didn't suggest any change to null sec isk faucets.

You're not interested in the truth, and in my experience, most of the pro-high sec posters aren't either. I think there is a strong corelation between people who hide behind npc police in a video game and the ability to tell (or even process) the truth.

Judging by the massive amount of people that play this game just for high sec content, seeking some economic justice by nerfing their pastime seems like the community just shooting themselves in the foot. "hey, here's an idea, lets attack the income of the game we love"

Now, if we excuse for a moment those that farm pve content using several accounts (not a negligible number, but certainly a small minority) I would have to say that those who reside in lower sec/null sec space are usually significantly more organized, knowledgeable and exploitative (no, not that kind of exploit) than those residing in high sec. That is to say usually groups in low/null are working smarter while those in high sec are working harder .. if you can follow my point without trying to read too much into that.

If you want to take simple isk activity and compare it with other simple isk activity then you have to ignore the fact that the context for these activities (the sec space) is basically two different games altogether. The opportunities, goals, typical 'end game' mindsets... they are pretty much completely separate games that rarely interact in any meaningful way.

People in lower sec space cry because they think it's so unfair that high sec dwellers run missions that make any measurable amount of isk. Is it anything more than srs bsns space jealousy...? I'm having trouble seeing what specifically is the problem.

The worlds are so far separated that unless someone can show me where the ability for high sec people to make money somehow negatively impacts those in low/null (beyond some assumption that their mere existence somehow generates an inflation on the game as a whole that) I just can't see how this topic goes anywhere other than "hey that guy makes more isk than i think he should.. I should be richer because my game is the real game and I deserve to be rewarded for playing the way I think this game should be played"

Nothing would come out of trying to balance the apples and oranges here other than upsetting a group of people that constitute a huge part of our subscription base. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

As to people in null and low that seem to think they don't have the opportunity or ability to make enough isk for the risk level you're operating at? You're doing it wrong.

And as to the actual topic at hand, do the missions make too much compared to the lower tiers? Maybe. But isn't that the point? No one sets out to make a career out of doing level 2 missions.... the goal is always working up to doing level 4's and it has been since the day they came out (Before that, everyone did level 3's, it was the same thing)

You mean you didnt read all of those fact over the last few pages. Funny how you vanished after they all turned up. Its also interesting to see that you have post nothing at all to back up what you are saying while you demand entire scientific papers from us.

Again you have failed to read and you latched onto something someone else said about a totaly different subject and have tried to use it to keep hold of your golden goose that is high sec level 4 income.

Yawn, I've provided facts and I've been out today, I cant hang around all day waiting for your next post, I have a family, friends and a real life. Are you honestly telling me you've spent your whole Sunday posting on these forums. If true it's incredibly sad.

You can tell it's a high sec poster when they are in an npc corp and have to lie about people's motivations.

i mean, it has to be jealousy, with you people, doesn't it, it can't be that some of us want the game to be healthy. It's not liek any of us have any ideas that might prevent bad situations in the future just because.

How is a mission paying less isk and more LP a nerf? If that's so, lvl 5 missions are a HUGE nerf on lvl 4s with their 100k lp pay outs.

Level 4 missions in high sec offer the same income as nullsec offers. High sec incursions offers vastly better income.

Tell me why you would make your isk in nullsec.

I don't know. Why are there thousands of people renting in null sec?

Certainly not because of the politics.

Wow personal attacks, not cool man. It just further erodes your credibility.