Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Carriers are pretty tough animals but they can't lay down the smack of a dread. If you let true carriers in to high what will happen?

A marauder won't do 1600 DPS while AFK ratting like a ten drone domi would. The marauder siege doesn't even HAVE a damage bonus. They're different things.

Erm, I rat in an ishtar, for ~20mil/tick, while AFK. 800 DPS, wasp IIs, works fine. The rats ignore the drones and just shoot the ishtar. I don't need spares. You're correct that I don't run missions though, I live in nullsec.

Hence, anything with 10 drones, I tend to assume will pack twice the DPS.

I have a rattlesnake I like to play with too, but with that one I have to put a small rep in the high to hold some agro. I've considered getting a second one and having them rep and cap eachother for more agro, but I'm also really lazy.

I rarely see good ideas, and when I do, I generally just like and leave. Bad ideas are much more fun to post to.

i'd say 0 on dreads

But yeah no thanks carriers are fine no need for smaller ones

What I was thinking was more along the lines of T2 Battleship that can field 10 Ogre2s but instead of giving it damage bonuses give bonuses to drone hitpoints, tracking, and maybe even resist. There would need to be some fine tuning with the bonuses, but the end result would be something like 1100-1200 DPS on level 5 skills and using a Drone Damage Amplifier II or 2. (Far from OP imo)

I agree with Meyr, due to the drone aggro that CCP has given to level 4 mission NPCs there really isn't anymore AFK ratting in missions. Yes I know AFK ratting does still exist in Null Sec but seeing as T2 Battleship prices usually hover around the 1B mark, I don't think many people would want to be taking that chance. (I'm sure a lot of people will be targeting them as a potentially nice boost to their killboard)
I actually wouldn't even use one of these suggested hulls for level 4 missions. At least not solo. However it would still make a great fleet ship. Being able to hang back providing logi and assigning drones. It would also get people a little more experienced with Carrier style combat. Possibly even encouraging hem to move on to Low/Null to pilot an actual Carrier.

This hull would have a large number of uses even outside of PvP/PvE. (Especially if its allowed to use Warfare Link Modules) Like Mallak Azaria said "use your imagination"


One last note: Remember that drones are delayed damage and that you often have to chance the type of drone you are fielding. (because face it.. even though large drones can deal a lot of damage, they still have trouble hitting small targets. So sometimes you have to return drones to drone bay and swap out to a medium or small combat drone).. Drones are by no means a "perfect weapon" they have their own drawbacks.

I dont see the Problem with a T2 BS that cant fit turrets but can handle 10 drones. (Rolebonus to fitting stats for Drone Control Unit) [and yes ONLY Drones no Fighters!]

Nearly the same DPS and you lost them anyway if you go AFK and you have to choose between more DPS (Drone Control Units) or other Highslot Stuff.

Give them also race specific Bonus that Gallente Mini-Carrier will only use Therm Damage Drones (Ogre etc.).

Thats it, i dont see where it could be OP? (sure you need a heavy tackler but whatever)

If you're in a carrier and you HAVEN'T got hundreds of drones on you, you're doing something wrong. I have 400+ and my bay isn't even full. problem is more along the lines of 'Oh, I've been caught and now there are five nyx on me. Ouch D;'

Also, you guys must have missed the whole vindicator ratting craze. And tengus. And nightmares, machariels, even rattlesnakes, they're all used for nullsec ratting with fits even highsec incursion runners would approve of. If something is the best at what it does, a 12-1600 DPS AFK ratter for example, people will buy them in droves.

Because 15 Large drones with 2 DDAIIs would be just over 1400DPS without a hull bonus to drone damage. Reason I changed from suggesting 10 drones with modules that would allow for an extra 1 per module with limit of 5 modules. to just 10

So I came up with some numbers. I know these aren't going to be perfect, but at least its something to start with. (in the Event that maybe CCP would let us test these out on Singularity.) These numbers are for a Gallente ship. I can come up with some numbers for other factions if needed.

Hull CreoDron based Megathron which i chose due to the fact that the Mega is the only Gallente Battleship that has a visual drone bay.. (underneath the ship facing forward.. which is also kinda odd since it has the least amount of bandwidth of all T1 Gallente Hulls)

Structure HP: 7,700
Drone Bay: 750m3
Drone Bandwidth: 250Mbit/sec
Armor HP: 7,000
EM Resist: 50%
Explosive Resist: 10%
Kinetic Resist: 51.25%
Thermal Resist: 43.125%
Shield HP: 6,500
EM Resist: 0%
Explosive Resist: 50%
Kinetic Resist: 55%
Thermal Resist: 30%
Capacitor: 6,000GJ

CPU: 650
Powergrid: 9,500
Calibration: 400
Low Slots: 6 -Edited
Medium Slots: 5 -Edited
High Slots: 5 -Edited

(Edit to bonuses: Change Role Bonus to use of Done Control Units. (will do some matth later to figure out reduction to fitting needs)
Battleship Bonus: 150% to Remote Armor Repair amount and 25% to Remote Sensor Boost amount
(class name) Bonus: 3.5% Drone Damage per level. 10% Drone Hitpoints per level.
Role Bonus: +5 To drones in space +25% Tracking to Large and Medium Drones.

Secondary Skill Reqs.
--Spaceship Command V
--Drone Interfacing V
----Drones V
--Long Range Targeting V
----CPU Management II
--Target Management V
----CPU Management I
--Navigation V

(Training time will be Comparable to Marauders and Black Ops. )