Crime & Punishment

To summarize, it would be nice for a PvP free zone but understandable it would be a miner and industrialist sanctuary and could break the economy. A big imbalance of risk vs cost.

No my biggest problem with C n P is it's taunting and insulting of players who are looking for answers. Not everyone knows the latest exploit, not everyone knows the newest scam or even old scams. You blame the victim without trying to place yourself in their shoes.

What we need is a Kill All Douchebags Movement (KADM)

To balance a lot of high sec problems and even low sec problems the KADM revision should have CCP pod anyone with a SEC lower then -.5 on sight. Just like real life they will hunt you down and drag you to jail. Maybe make a WH space type of system forcing them to stay there this would stop repetitive criminal acts on numerous players. Podding or blowing up ships 20k from Gates in High Sec should be impossible make them have force fields in .5 or higher space. Reasoning behind force-fields is CCP protecting players. They are allowed in null for POS but CCP can't seem to use them in high sec. If not then please change the name to killing grounds not High Sec.

There are better ways then the current system which is heavily exploited.

Could you image sending pod killers in high sec to a jail house. This jail could be a WH system with one WH that only opens up once in 24 hours. Let the Douchebags kill each other is my moto.

Just saying for realism your criminal actions should have stronger deterrent that's more realistic. In all fairness a real system of corps would protect their production lines and assets. They would also hunt pirates / mercs that try to interfere. In this system CCP is the big brother of those getting took advantage of.

In real life, real pirates were hunted out until they where no more. Maybe the exception of recent pirates of Somalia, even they too are dying off because of companies protecting their assets.

The system should at least be realistic otherwise your just creating an environment to those who take advantage of the weak and you're player base has suffered. Think about how many have just stopped playing because of rage quitting.

The none stop harassment from douchebags is a major problem. Everyone support the KADM.

Pirate hanging

Ok some people liked the ideas most hated them on C n P. But you have to take into consideration the target audience as many have mention.

While suicide gankers is a good example to use because some are douche bags not all, like someone said you can't walk around with your pants down and not expect a reaction. In truth people do that all the time in real life I see woman wear pantyhose up their cracks and walk around in the open leaving nothing to the imagination. They do expect the law to send to jail their rapist.
If I wore a Royalace watch in a shady back alley and placed where everyone can see, well can't say I did not have that coming right, but those same people expect the law to do something.

Lets face most gankers would hate the idea of jail space why force them to PvP with each other, I mean HOW DARE THEY TAKE AWAY MY FREEDOM AND FORCE ME TO DO SOMETHING I DON'T WANT!!

Really I almost smiled each time someone mention that. While in the same breath they are forcing their ideas of the game on others by force.
Funny, the ugly truth is they just want easy ganks that are profitable or not so profitable they just want to cause trouble douchebags.

I have seen repeat ganks on cans for less then 3 mil, on different newbs coming an going from Jita, just because you can kill and run away fast enough does not mean you should but hey your just forcing your ideas on a player who may not want it, so it is OK right just a game. When someone calls for balance then most in this forum say HELL NO scared to death a DEV might actually do it.

Well how would you like it if CCP forced you criminal hand in a way you forced your victims? Well this forum thread as answered that, truth is you would not.

I know I am a hypocrite but at least I see the humor of it all.

Final and Last Response to this thread.

I foresee this thread being highly entertaining and am going to go fix popcorn to enjoy once it takes off. We could set the sec status to 1.1 and call it Pandaria.

A pvp free zone??

lolol tardboi

I would like to start a movement as well focusing around where the opinions of alt's don't matter when they post idiotic ideas.

Most people that use their alts to post their so called ******** "ideas" because they know it is ********. If you wanted any credibility you would have used your main but we both know that would not happened. Otherwise your main would have left corp already with all the incoming wars.

If this is your main.. I'm watching you...

I am all for this plan. Just as long as those with >5.0 standing are subject to concord strength pirate spawns when ever they are more than 20km from a gate or station. Call it mafiaso putting hits on all the white knights. It is only fair after all.

Let me tell you about realism in an underwater spaceship game.

Giving the benefit of the doubt on whether or not this is a troll... Might I suggest another option? If you are so offended by the actions of these people, why not take matters into your own hands? Gather your angry mob and some weapons, sit down and figure out which end to point at the enemy, and go get your justice on. With the mechanics in place currently, hisec is ALOT safer than it used to be. I fail to see how it would be CCP's responsibility to save derps from their own laziness and inattentiveness. Make your own justice, you're only as defenseless as you let yourself be.

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When was the last time I saw a NPC gate camp besides maybe in null. They do exist in highsec but in the shadows. As should player characters of the same profession. Pirates vs douchebags are a bit different in generally one will take ransom because they will see the profit the other is just a jerk out to ruin any enjoyment of others.

In this I share a cause I want to ruin their enjoyment and force them to face off with each other. Is that so wrong.

Okay, as a legitimate discussion I'll concede that there is quite a bit of snark to be had in C&P. Of course I've also noticed that many of the merry miscreants who populate this forum tend to also give good advice on how to avoid becoming their victim to the aggreived parties who come here to post about the bad thing that happened to them. Almost always it seems it's dismissed out of hand and a great deal of foot stamping and bemoaning of the unfairness of the world often follows. My suggestion wasn't sarcasm; I do mean it.
NPC's don't pod, players do. If you want douchebags podded, it's going to take players to do it. I know some players hunt pirates actively, it's exciting for them. There are many bounty hunters out there as well. CCP isn't the party that needs to take action when it comes to this, it's the players that have a problem with it. The tools are available, it's just a matter of finding the wherewithal to use them.

Think of it like would you pull a heist in front of a company of arm military personal with tanks. Without any regards as to the crime and punishment of such action. In truth you would not in real life but in a game sure why not might be fun.

In Eve we have clones which makes the body disposable. Concord will blow up the aggressors ships if able but that's it. there is no time out, jail time, or any other sort of punishment in the current system. You can waste your money and place a bounty that they themselves can collect on.

Sure other players can help, or hiring a merc professional helps too like Mermit Collective rip a new bum hole to Tribal Band. I was laughing about that one, O the irony.


The Question how do we make High Sec safer and implement a true crime and punishment system?

I am sure its only wishful thinking but who knows.