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to me it's interessting to see, that although the new tier3 bc are not intended for tanking and therefor have glasscanon-hitpoints, ppl still try to fit multiple plates and extenders on them...

In my opinion, ships will never always be used for their determined roles. At the end of the day we will still see the these battlecruisers ripping apart ships smaller ships than just battleships. Honestly, I can't argue the removal of the web bonus on the talos, it would have been fun and useful and I was a little deflated to see its removal but, it would have made killing small ships incredibly easy and in fact TOO easy. The drone bay, in my opinion, should not be removed from the talos, but this would increase its ability to fight smaller ships so it's been removed. My suggestion, though I will probably get chased off this thread with a shotgun on this suggestion but I'm going for it anyway, we give the talos a fighter. Yes, I said it, a single fighter without to ability to replace it with a bunch of small drones. Much like the fighter bay on the mom nerf coming up. 5 hobs without ship boosts do almost exactly the same as a single fireblog (about 100dps). This would allow the talos to put some dps on the floor outside it's gun range yet keep it away from smaller ships, I like the sound of it, just time to do some research now...

10 minutes later after some research: There are several problems with this suggestion I will say from the start, this bay would be useless to new players as they wouldn't have the skills for fighters. Not to mention that the fighter would cost about 1/3 the price of the ship once prices settle down. It's a good idea in concept but in the reality of TQ it wouldn't work. I don't know where to find any common ground to make this work other than the fighter being part of the ship and you miracusly get new one when you dock, not to mention a reduced skill requirement for new players.

I'm open to suggestions and this entire post is speculation so do please take a minute or two and give it some thought before trolling me right off this thread. Thanks for reading!

Sorry if this post is 100% geared toward gallente, it's all I ever fly. Many people may have no love for gallente but it's what I fly and I like it.

I can't wait to see the troll posts in reply to this, sigh.

That is bull*** - Proteus is the singlehanded most heavily buffertanked T3 cruiser in the game even more tank than a Legion. Also it has a divine tackling bonus easily capable of working with armor fleets.

That said however I'm tired of hearing "optimal bonus is a damage bonuse" talk about Caldari because range plays little to no role in current battles and it makes it impossible to mix stuff like the rokh because of difference in range and huge difference in damage/volley damage.

dammit!!!

Here is the latest update on these ships:

NAGA

• Missile role removed, now focuses as a hybrid platform
• 10% Torpedo velocity per level swapped for 5% to Large Hybrid Turret damage per level

As pointed out, even with the velocity bonus, torpedoes have a too short of a range to be useful in practical situation with the Naga since it has the lowest mobility of all tier 3 battlecruisers and quite poor defensive options. Aligning this ship into a missile platform would have required a long range option as well, meaning the use of cruise missiles, which created a certain number of issues.

Specializing for a hybrid long range platform made more sense with the Naga role, which is why the damage bonus was appealing, especially when combined with CCP Tallest changes; it also makes more sense regarding Caldari tier philosophy, where highest tech 1 tiers usually are hybrid platforms (Merlin, Moa, Rokh).

Sweet, thx for screwin over all those focused Missile pilots, appreciated! Those that have focused Hybrid Skills now have a choice of 2 new ships! Typical CCP!

You have the Drake which does the job of the Naga with a tank. What are you smoking?

Have you even tried to use a torp Naga? It's worthless because of the range.