Wormholes

yes but why?
a c4-c4 would be a much better option for a group of pilots that can only fly tengus, you get much more isk/hr

Domis are better but still C4 > C5 for domis

Why not just plex and buy some capital ship pilots? It takes less then an hour of google searching to pretty much learn everything about wormholes and avoiding ganks.


When looking at things form a PURELY PvE standpoint, you have to realize that DPS=Isk/HR

I keep going on about C5s because they are the easiest WH to find (in nullsec) for daytripping and they are the most deserted type in the game.

We do a lot of probing and we both agree that C5s are by far the easiest to find. C4s on teh other hand we hardly ever come across, usually as another WH within a WH.

We don't want to live in a WH because we are part of a null alliance and don't want to give that up. We don't have the characters to split out the pvp from the pve.

As such, we want to be able to log on, quickly find a C5 and just start jewing. Missions suck.

Hmm if 2000 dps is low for a C5 WH, what amount of dps would get it done with reasonable quickness? Plank you seemed happy with 3000 in that other thread. How about 2500?

Rarely share ship-fittings on the forums, but hey, lets have some more siting tengus in our wormholes :)

If you are looking at it from a PvE standpoint, I am assuming you want as much efficiency for as little cost. The fit you have is fine, but it wont shoot further than 70km (with perfect missile skills), and it will cause some travelig to get in range, or knowing where next wave spawns, which still can be quite far appart in C5-sites. Which is why I like to use this fit;

[Tengu, RR-Cheap]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

Shoots out to 105 with scourge fury (Anyone that tells you to swap to t1 ammo, tell them to stuff it) It is (almost) cap stable with 3 BS neuting you (you wont find more in all but 1 C5 site) and you are able to tank any incomming dps, even from the hardest site, The Information Pen.

Now, it requires attention to fly, and if someone disconnects or drifts off, the others better be ready to heat their modules if you just had a new wave.

Have had lots of people, even from my own alliance, telling me they need passive modules or swapping to t1 ammo for range instead of fitting range rigs, but - if what you want is efficiency, then I'd go with that fit. It works and it beats all the tengus without range rigs or target painters by severel mintues on sites.

Faye knows the real deal. We have flown 4 RR Tengus together in the past and it works a treat. 4 of those will work perfectly with alert pilots, better yet with boosts.

No reason not to use a S95a large on a RR tengu really - unless your skills really suck they are possible to get cap stable with a fairly decent tengu fit.

4 tengus is ok for doing C5 sites unescalated not amazingly quick but it won't be too slow either the main issue would be if one of them DC'd at the wrong time as someone mentioned above.

Hmm, using pyfa and it puts it @ 99,59% CPU. There are workarounds, one is the dissulution subsystem swapped for a cpu subsystem, but it will lower your locking range to 85km. (If you bring the new range boosts, that wont be a problem). Another way is just fitting more faction BCU's.

With paying attention I mean, turn off or run your shield transporter in bursts if you are being primairerd by neuts. The fit doesnt have a lot of EHP, so you need to swap to the reps to the new dps primary pretty soon after the sleepers do. Make sure someone doesnt drift out of rep range etc. You can keep hardeners running without worrying.

or just roll 4 navy domis {5k dps @40k, 4k @ 90km} and a triage carrier. Bathe in isk.

Magnetar and Pulsar are your friends.

Edit: No I wont give you fits.

Good, alert pilots can manage more than adequately with the fit that Faye posted. Your fit is cool for multi-boxers or those who are overly cautious. I prefer a bit more missile range and a painter.

Just fyi, I deal with this guy on a regular basis. Argue against him and he will shoot you with his math. Don't stir him up, he'll end up podding you too.

I dont have much experience with C4 sites, so what I am gonna say is purely based on theory and math.

2 tengus with boosts (T3 offgrid with all 3 T2 Siege Links + Siege Mindlink implan) can tank ~1400 omni dps, which should make them able to tank most C3 sites. (Exception being the harder Data and harder Relic site, which include a 4 BS spawn [~2.000 Tank required]). 3 Tengu's would be optimal though, making you able to run all sites with ease.