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Skill Point Remaps

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Sub-Zero Saul
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-09-01 05:17:23 UTC
I think we should get 1 yearly Skill Point Remap to help us refocus our studies and keep us on the right path.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2013-09-01 05:39:11 UTC
Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's off on this thread we go.

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Cade Windstalker
#3 - 2013-09-01 05:53:16 UTC
No, this has been proposed numerous times and there are so many reasons it's a bad idea I can't even begin to list them all so I'll give you the top points.


  • You could optimally focus your skill training on one group of skills, remap those skill points into a wide range of skills and completely get around attributes, attribute remaps, or paying for more than 2 implants.
  • This would make "Flavor of the Month" fits and doctrines even easier to get into and make them more prolific. This is not good for game balance.
  • Your skill training is supposed to require planning and thought, you should not be able to go "I put zero thought into this and would like my points back to put into useful things now"
  • You could use this to train up a pilot doing research or industry and then turn them into a combat pilot as soon as they hit the desired SP total even though you had been making money off of those skills for months or years before hand.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#4 - 2013-09-01 06:20:27 UTC
Wow has something like this, maybe you should go back there.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#5 - 2013-09-01 08:52:40 UTC
There really really is a need for both a 'Dislike' button and the 'Place Bounty' button on the forums.

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#6 - 2013-09-01 10:01:41 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
No, this has been proposed numerous times and there are so many reasons it's a bad idea I can't even begin to list them all so I'll give you the top points.


  • You could optimally focus your skill training on one group of skills, remap those skill points into a wide range of skills and completely get around attributes, attribute remaps, or paying for more than 2 implants.
  • This would make "Flavor of the Month" fits and doctrines even easier to get into and make them more prolific. This is not good for game balance.
  • Your skill training is supposed to require planning and thought, you should not be able to go "I put zero thought into this and would like my points back to put into useful things now"
  • You could use this to train up a pilot doing research or industry and then turn them into a combat pilot as soon as they hit the desired SP total even though you had been making money off of those skills for months or years before hand.

This post perfectly lays out why this is a bad idea.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#7 - 2013-09-01 12:50:16 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
There really really is a need for both a 'Dislike' button and the 'Place Bounty' button on the forums.

First time I hear of place bounty button, goes without saying this is the best idea I've seen in the last 14 days.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-01 13:02:59 UTC
No.

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Sub-Zero Saul
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-09-05 23:40:47 UTC
1 skill point remap in exchange for 1 x PLEX ?
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-05 23:43:56 UTC
Even worse.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#11 - 2013-09-06 00:19:06 UTC
No because of the following points.
Tippia wrote:
It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
It removes the point of having attributes.
It removes attribute implants from the game.
It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
It removes planning and choice and consequences.
It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
It kills character trading.
It massively boosts older characters over new ones.
It introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2013-09-06 02:38:57 UTC
Sub-Zero Saul wrote:
1 skill point remap in exchange for 1 x PLEX ?


How about this: 1 Skill point remap + 1 name change for 2 PLEX?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-09-06 05:43:55 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's off on this thread we go.



I was hoping mini dread marauders and 1.1 rants/raves/whines would get us some new material. Nope...sp and ecm, SSDD
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-09-06 06:14:43 UTC
not this again... no.

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suid0
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-09-06 07:52:15 UTC
biomass, then create new character... think of it as a remap that just takes time

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-09-06 08:01:37 UTC
No

(I have put as much effort into that reply as it deserves, which is to say as much as you put into looking at the hudnred other threads on the same topic, reading the objections to the exact same idea and countering them.)

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2013-09-06 08:02:27 UTC
Sub-Zero Saul wrote:
1 skill point remap in exchange for 1 x PLEX ?


1 PLEX per SP remapped? Yeah OK then, sure.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-09-06 08:12:30 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Sub-Zero Saul wrote:
1 skill point remap in exchange for 1 x PLEX ?


How about this: 1 Skill point remap + 1 name change for 2 PLEX?


He probably meant that you pay 1 PLEX to move 1 (one) skill point from skill A to skill B.
At least I hope he meant that. For example to move all skill points from fully trained BS skill to other skills you'd have to pay 2.048.000 PLEX.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#19 - 2013-09-06 08:34:44 UTC
Woohoo, 4 month old character who has never left the noob corp suggesting massive game-changing ideas that totally ruin one of the most balanced parts of Eve.

The need to Biomass is strong with this one!

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Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#20 - 2013-09-06 11:38:47 UTC
Just no!
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