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Warcalibre
NovaTech Holdings
#1 - 2013-09-05 02:59:53 UTC
This ship has a PI bay but it cannot hold command centers?

...

I must be missing something here.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#2 - 2013-09-05 03:23:56 UTC
Yes you are.

Compare total max cargo of all the indy ships.

View attributes of all of them and you will notice why.

Hint: start with the Primae.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#3 - 2013-09-05 05:52:54 UTC
I suggest doing deployment of Command Centres with a different industrial and then doing your normal PI pick ups and put downs of goods with the Epithal. However if you have to use the Epithal for everything then a fit like this will hold 2 command centres

[Epithal, Command Centres]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
ECM Burst II

Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Robbin Sund
#4 - 2013-09-05 08:22:10 UTC
Warcalibre wrote:
This ship has a PI bay but it cannot hold command centers?

...

I must be missing something here.



That ship is perfect to gather up your PI materials! infact its cheap and superquick to train!
But it cant always come with all cons, the pro is the commandcenter is not a PI "material" its a structure used for PI, henche going into normal cargo. :)

For stuff like that the normal iteron V (or iteron only maby) can hold the 1-5 commandcenters you want to put up.

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Warcalibre
NovaTech Holdings
#5 - 2013-09-05 15:50:55 UTC
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realize that I can just use another ship. It just seems like having one ship to carry all PI stuff would have made more sense. Imagine if they had made the indy that carries ammo only able to carry hybrid ammo. It wouldn't make sense.
Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#6 - 2013-09-05 16:35:33 UTC
Warcalibre wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realize that I can just use another ship. It just seems like having one ship to carry all PI stuff would have made more sense. Imagine if they had made the indy that carries ammo only able to carry hybrid ammo. It wouldn't make sense.


Yes, that is a good point. You don't use one cement truck to haul the aggregate and another one to haul the slurry.. Do you?

I wouldn't mind them making the command centers take more capacity and make it able to put them in the pi hold.

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#7 - 2013-09-05 16:36:49 UTC
Warcalibre wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realize that I can just use another ship. It just seems like having one ship to carry all PI stuff would have made more sense. Imagine if they had made the indy that carries ammo only able to carry hybrid ammo. It wouldn't make sense.
You probably meant that if they made the indy that carries the ammo, to also carry the weapons that fire those.

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Warcalibre
NovaTech Holdings
#8 - 2013-09-05 16:41:35 UTC
Vexed Nova wrote:

I wouldn't mind them making the command centers take more capacity and make it able to put them in the pi hold.


That's a good idea.
Aedh Phelan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-09-05 16:42:12 UTC
For PI in space where PI is profitable, the Epithal is one of the most beautiful things CCP has ever done. Nice big hold and a very respectable tank if fit for tank.

I love it and I shall call it George.
Aedh Phelan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-05 16:43:55 UTC
Vexed Nova wrote:
Warcalibre wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realize that I can just use another ship. It just seems like having one ship to carry all PI stuff would have made more sense. Imagine if they had made the indy that carries ammo only able to carry hybrid ammo. It wouldn't make sense.


Yes, that is a good point. You don't use one cement truck to haul the aggregate and another one to haul the slurry.. Do you?

I wouldn't mind them making the command centers take more capacity and make it able to put them in the pi hold.



But they also don't use the cement truck to haul the framing, nails, insulation etc either.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2013-09-05 16:58:56 UTC
I just use my Blockade Runners for it all.

The holds will take in anything.

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Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#12 - 2013-09-05 17:02:12 UTC
Aedh Phelan wrote:

But they also don't use the cement truck to haul the framing, nails, insulation etc either.


Yes, but you don't use nails, insulation and framing to make the concrete. You do to make a foundation (forming), but not to make the concrete.

I guess we could split hairs until we are all bald. Anyway, it would have been cool to have that PI ship to do *all* the PI stuff. That's all we are saying. I think it was a spectacular rebalancing. I think it was one of the better yet (maybe 2nd to the frigate rebalancing).



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Aedh Phelan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-09-05 17:14:52 UTC
Vexed Nova wrote:
Aedh Phelan wrote:

But they also don't use the cement truck to haul the framing, nails, insulation etc either.


Yes, but you don't use nails, insulation and framing to make the concrete. You do to make a foundation (forming), but not to make the concrete.

I guess we could split hairs until we are all bald. Anyway, it would have been cool to have that PI ship to do *all* the PI stuff. That's all we are saying. I think it was a spectacular rebalancing. I think it was one of the better yet (maybe 2nd to the frigate rebalancing).






As someone doing PI in W-space, the space is nice but in truth, it's all about the tank and free low slots for something other than cargo expanders.
Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#14 - 2013-09-05 17:25:21 UTC
Aedh Phelan wrote:

As someone doing PI in W-space, the space is nice but in truth, it's all about the tank and free low slots for something other than cargo expanders.


Yeah, that is a good point. The more efficient your planets are, the more m3 you are going to need, so having this godly PI bay is really win sauce.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2013-09-05 23:07:45 UTC
Am I the only one that keeps reading this ship's name as epitaph What?
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#16 - 2013-09-05 23:44:43 UTC
The Primae has a bay for command centers.

It also has a bay for PI goods. Although it is far smaller.

It would be redundant to have both with them.
Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#17 - 2013-09-06 15:23:47 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
The Primae has a bay for command centers......
.....It would be redundant to have both with them.


Has ANYONE actually used these?

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Warcalibre
NovaTech Holdings
#18 - 2013-09-06 17:56:04 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
The Primae has a bay for command centers.

It also has a bay for PI goods. Although it is far smaller.

It would be redundant to have both with them.



Its bay can hold 2 command centers. Why would I fly that instead of a real hauler. Primae has no advantages and is a joke ship.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#19 - 2013-09-06 18:32:58 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Vexed Nova wrote:
Warcalibre wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realize that I can just use another ship. It just seems like having one ship to carry all PI stuff would have made more sense. Imagine if they had made the indy that carries ammo only able to carry hybrid ammo. It wouldn't make sense.


Yes, that is a good point. You don't use one cement truck to haul the aggregate and another one to haul the slurry.. Do you?

I wouldn't mind them making the command centers take more capacity and make it able to put them in the pi hold.



You do use a different truck to haul cement from the plant than the truck you used to build the cement plant, though.


Similarly, different trucks for Ore and Mining Equipment, Oil and Oil Wells, Logs and Fellers, etc.

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