Ships & Modules

...and? Empire is not that safe nor has it ever been that safe in the history of EVE. Don't have unreal expectations about it.

First of let's be clear what you are moving, every 500mil is a months sub or another $15 saved on subs or alts for whomever breaks that pinata so there is incentive to go after you. That ganker you pitied, the one that told you how to get around her, well she has a pretty good reason to take the time to plan out how to get that loot pinata, you have the same amount of incentive to keep it safe and therefor need to put in the same kind of effort. EVE doesn't let you autopilot in complete safety with $30-60 in the hold of a $3 ship so instead of thinking how easier you would like the game to be on you, you have to think about what you have to do to win the game.

For every gank tactic CCP has provided you a way to get around it. Industrial's for cheap medium loads. DST's for expensive medium loads, Cloakies & Blockade Runners for small very valuable items, Freighters for expensive large loads. If you go over the value to gank ratio you can split up the big cargo's or cloak small cargo. If you want to autopilot you get increased risk, that simple. If your ship is cheap so will the cost to kill you. If you can't afford a better ship you can hire one on contracts.

I personally have invested zero SP and ISK in expensive cargo ships but instead of running it in an inadequate ship Red Frog and Black Frog moves my expensive crap for me. Cargo running is its own part of the game with winners and losers, I am not equipped to play it so I hire out to those who are equipped and invested the time and ISK, that is the cost of doing business in EVE.

So yes you can auto pilot your Occator with 1-2 billion / $30-60 in it. You now know the risk, that "pitiful" ganker spelled it out for you and there is a chance it will make it, there is a chance it won't. If that 1-2 billion is too important to lose, either split it up and take the hour to fly it manually or if you like hire someone for 10-20 mil and wait a day. That is cargo game in EVE and it is a real game with its own challenges, not just an auto pilot button.

I like EVE this way, complicated, no task is assured and you always need to take steps to outwit the opposition. I don't pity my enemies, I beat them.

People gank ships for no cargo at all. If you go by a scan alt along your way. and you are on autopilot, he WILL scan you and someone in his fleet WILL do some quick calcs.

Freighters and Brick tank Battleships require lots of DPS to burn through them. This means lots of pilots are needed.
Anything smaller needs much less pilots.
A 3 or 4 man crew is much easier to put together, and anything less than 50,000 EHP is fairly easy to gank.

I think his ballsy post here kinda guarantees that some people will keep an eye out for him (for example, according to a locator agent he's in Jita 4-4 right now), just to pop for the lulz.

I am transporting 1+ billion in modules and rigs from Jita to Dodixie sometime in the next 3 days.

I dare anybody to gank me.

Outside of high sec it is not suicide ganking. Suicide Ganking is when they gank you knowing full well Concord will eat their ship within 20-30 seconds. this only happens in high sec. in low and 0.0 they do not risk anything ganking your hauler, and have far more than 20-30 seconds to do it. In "Fountain" a frigate can gank a freighter, it just takes time to burn thru the tank, but CONCORD is not coming, so you have all the time in the world.

There are gate camps in high sec, along trade routes, looking for ships exactly as you described yours to be. I hope the character you are posting with is not the one that will be flying this ship, as you will now be watch listed by gankers due to this thread.

A freighter has a ~200ehp buffer and can be taken out by a fleet of about 8 Gank talos at a cost of about 800M. If a freighter carries more than about 1B in cargo it is profitable to gank. If it is seen afking it will be ganked, eventually, no matter how lucky you are, eventually you will be caught dropping the soap.

A DST no matter how well tanked they are, easy to get them to 100k ehp buffer, are still easier to gank than a freighter. If you autopilot it thru high sec with 1-2B in cargo, it will get ganked. Putting it in a battleship is not much safer, less chance of getting scanned maybe, but equally easy to gank if the cargo value is high enough.

Auto piloting billions in cargo thru EVE, even through high sec, is suicide. However, if you are to busy to pilot the ship yourself, and to cheap to pay for someone else to do it for you, then by all means, go get yourself ganked. But do not come back here crying when you lose 2B in cargo. Unless of course your actual intent is to fill the tear buckets that will be waiting.

Not that I would but I think one of the more resilient birds out there would be a damnation.

How are you getting to 430k ? I saw this 400k fitting, but this is with implants, heat (not possible afk), fleet boost and LARGE trimarks. I don't think you can fit large trimarks to cruisers anymore, or at least my EFT will not allow it:

L5 Stats with Implants, Fleet Booster, and Heat:
DPS - 606 (568 w/out heat)
EHP - 457K (348K w/out heat)
Speed - 506 m/s
Align - 7.1s
Cap - 56% w/out nos
Ammo - Gallente Antimatter M
Drones - Oger II x2, Hammerhead x2, Hobgoblin x1


EFT:

[Proteus, PVP 1]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
Domination Stasis Webifier

Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Nosferatu II
Medium Nosferatu II
Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Trimark Armor Pump II
Trimark Armor Pump II
Trimark Armor Pump II

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

This fellow has already been ganked once this summer, carrying over a billion in modules in highsec in an Iteron Mark V:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18975501

Slow learner.

Droidster is the Eve Santa Claus. Thanks Droidster, have a cookie (AFK, of course).

How I train my corp:

4000 x total health.

40 mil per 10k of health is your max risk for high sec hauling.

Auto-Pilot only if well under 2000 x total health. (( Active mods don't count to health when AFK ))

Bring ECM / Cloak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lon41NCRvOM