Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yet another topic about removing attributes in EVE Online, but wait, this is not about discussing it! I like to present a solution which might make everyone or at least most happy and the best part is: it is very easy to implement!

There are some threads in this forum already, which discuss this topic (e.g. Death to Attributes, which can be summarized as following:

• Some people don't care about attributes, since there are more important issues,
• some don't like them because they add no value to this game and are more like a relic which should be cleaned up and
• some fear to lose "complexity" if they were removed. Something about making the game easier and they like to plan one year ahead...

So, how to remove them while keeping some sort of "complexity" and don't waste too much time doing it:

1. Remove the "Attributes" tab in the Character Sheet (not the attributes)
2. Remove/disable the remapping system
3. Set/hard code all attributes to 25 points (with +5 imps you have 30 = 2700sp/h)
4. ???
5. Profit!

This means: attributes are still there, but you can change them with implants only.

Pros:

• No need to remove attributes from skillbooks
• Learning implants keep their value, so no need to reimburse anyone + they remain as isk sink
• Implant sets will still have a drawback (bad learning time)
• Some sort of complexity remains, because you can make decisions like: make clones with different +5 implants to learn specific skills perfectly, while lowering the risk to lose lots of isk, if you get podded.
• Very easy to implement. It shouldn't take more then one work day, depending on how attributes are implemented in the software

Cons:

• You can't spend a long night anymore, to plan your next year skill plan, to optimize your training time (pro for beginners)
• Anything else?

So what do you think about it?


PS: Fozzie, what about a little ninja patch?

So you want every character to be the same.

2700? No.

If attributes go, then all skill training should be conducted at baseline.

Let me guess: you have three different "builds" on your account. One healer with focus on intelligence/memory, one tank which is focused on perception/willpower and one damage dealer with willpower/charisma.

Oh wait.. wrong game

its called reskinning....10000 people and they only differ by avatar.


Balance would be....you on a perc/will train to counter me on an int/mem. Your weapons and ship skills training faster to maybe overcome my tank training.. You see if I go int/mem day 1...I can't tank enemies to death and my weapons come along much slower. But...your gun train has you lacking support skills so I get a more fair chance.


Want balance...here it is. Take those day 1 stats and keep them for close to a year. Mix in implants....and go. This got me fleet frigates like bombers, fleet bc's and fleet bs in a decent timeframe in less than a year. that done...then I specialized and started remaps for it. Some may note cruisers not listed. When I did pvp these where still broken, but you had the skills up for suicide t1 trash roams.

Others will says but but...where are the t2 cruisers. The good bs pays for the hacs. Need ths isk to have your fun. Hac 5 in record time but wallet not fat does you no good (as you'd be max skill but too space too poor to actually buy one). Fleet bs with mod swap out ='s nice pve bs and isk maker. But thats me...horse before cart.