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So I left high sec, and the risk/reward sucks.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#121 - 2013-09-04 17:28:58 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
WCS is the same for Harry, and for some other pilots. They don;t see that the CPU usage can be crippling to a small ship (as you can see from Harry's rig and Co-Pro 2 selection), and that the extended targeting time is more likely to kill them than a scram. Flown properly, a bomber should not need warp core stabs, and in fact are worse off with them.

Actually the biggest problem is that Harry thinks they make him immune to bubbles.

Still?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2013-09-04 17:30:55 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
I've been doing missions in low sec and pirate space. I spent 2 weeks grinding missions to be able to do level 3 missions, and the reward? 1,000 LP , 800,000 isk on average for a level 3 mission. at 1,000 isk an LP that's a whopping 1,800,000 for a level 3 mission. Why would people bother leaving high sec to do missions if the reward is negligable?

I'm in an 80 mil t2 fit cruiser and can complete about 3 missions an hour.

I come from the game Ultima Online so I prefer to be in low sec but there is no incentive, anyone explain to me why I shouldnt go back to high sec?


Your KB would suggest you spend a majority of your time in null and lo. Posting in a loosely veiled nerf HS thread.

Don't ban me, bro!
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#123 - 2013-09-04 17:54:40 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Digits Kho wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Risk V Reward

Safest: Null sec carebear land (found in deep null far behind the gate camps and npc null
Risks: Awoxxing, anything else you can dock up instantly when they enter local
Rewards: High

Safer: High sec
Risks: Awoxxing, Suiciding, Wars
Rewards: Average to low

Quite Risky: Low sec, Null NPC
Risks: Awoxxing, Pirates, Everyone and his dog can and sometimes do shoot you
Rewards: Average

Riskiest: WH Space
Risks: No local, pirates, local residents
Rewards: Very high.


So remind me again, why does 80% of eve population live in empire space?

Because people like to play MMO's solo. They don't like being forced to group.



They were probably looking for the non online commnity based game then and took a wrong turn....

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#124 - 2013-09-04 17:56:30 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Irsam Samri wrote:
I've been doing missions in low sec and pirate space. I spent 2 weeks grinding missions to be able to do level 3 missions, and the reward? 1,000 LP , 800,000 isk on average for a level 3 mission. at 1,000 isk an LP that's a whopping 1,800,000 for a level 3 mission. Why would people bother leaving high sec to do missions if the reward is negligable?

I'm in an 80 mil t2 fit cruiser and can complete about 3 missions an hour.

I come from the game Ultima Online so I prefer to be in low sec but there is no incentive, anyone explain to me why I shouldnt go back to high sec?


Your KB would suggest you spend a majority of your time in null and lo. Posting in a loosely veiled nerf HS thread.


Underlined the parts I'm confused by.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2013-09-04 18:28:26 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
strange you just lost 1 billion of haulers, but you refuse to recognize...


One billion isk is a small price to pay for the fun we have making fun of your warp stabbed bombers in our intel channels.



I'll wcs my bomber if you give me a bil. I'll even fly it to you for you to destroy!

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#126 - 2013-09-04 19:10:24 UTC
I would chain rats in a rupture when I was at only able to do L3's because they suck. So the risk/reward is awesome because I was spending under 10 million a ship and making 10 mil or more an hour. I sure as hell don't make enough to replace my Machariel every hour in Hisec l4's.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#127 - 2013-09-05 08:58:11 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
you don't understand much about bombers, you just reapeat what you did read on the web

there is not time to get into position with celestials, the target long is gone, but how should you know... you think they are waiting for you while you get into position right? maybe the reason why you never made a solokill in a bomber, wherelse i made over 80 now... you can do your carebear tactics that your read on the web, what i do is a bit more aggressive gameplay, nothing for the faint of heart... just stick to your fleets there you be safe, this is not your business

I recommend you guys stop responding to my fitting, the only thing you explain to me is that you have no clue about the game

See: "Waah, you dont understand!"
Yes, my industry character tends to only go into bombers in fleets.
1. If you don't have time to get in line with the celestial, you warped to the target from a stupid angle.
2. I know from experience how bombers work, and nerfing the shite out of their scan resolution is a dumb idea.
3. Your "solo kills" are industry ships. You could solo kill them with a noobie frigate and a point.

At the end of the day Harry you are a truly awful EVE pilot, that claims to be amazing while providing no evidence. The amount of bombers you've lost shows that you are a terrible pilot with no idea how to fly your ship.
You can run around screaming "you know nothing, i know everything, you all suck" like a 7 year old all you want, but most of us actually know how to play eve so we can tell at a glance that you're full of ****. You're not fooling anyone here.

It would take you literally a few minutes to find some better tactics and better methods to improve your skills, but you'd rather just be awful at the game then cry about how it should be changed. EPIC loser.

lol, nice edit:
Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing you explain to me is that you have no clue about the game, with sensor booster you can have the exact same locktime like a normal bomber, however you don't need to lock when you bomb stuff, and when you play differenty maybe camp a gate, you can simply switch off the warb stabs as well, did you hear about that?

so you have many options to use warb stabs, however you won't find it on the web, you just find out when you use your own brain, something you guys seem to be resistant against

So you want to use a mid slot and 2 low slots just so you can try to avoid being pointed, even though you should be avoiding getting targeted? This is where you are chucking extra mods on just to counter the fact that you can't fly the ship properly.
And turning off the stabs means you wasted 2 slots.

I don't need to "find it on the web" since I've been flying bombers for years. "using your brain" is not something you seem to be very good at Harry. If you're so superior at fitting bombers, how come you lose so many?

It's not even like you thought about your fit. When you fitted your bomber you probably put the stabs on first then said "now what else fits...". This is typical of new players who get one thing in their head then refuse to move off of it. The DC2 was another module people tended to refuse to go without, even to their detriment. And do even get me started on the overuse of 1600mm plate. Jamming on every module and rig to expand your powergrid enough to chuck as many plates on the ship as possible, then getting blapped in seconds for being slow as anything (nearly as slow as your mind Harry) and heavy as a small moon, with no resists.

pretty sure he's the kind of uy who would try to solo a stilleto in a SB....

happened to me a few weeks ago, still laughting at the SB pilot "But i got 400 dps and you have 50 how u no dead? "


yet another guy having no clue how haulers are shotdown... go back mining guys

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#128 - 2013-09-05 09:02:40 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
pretty sure he's the kind of uy who would try to solo a stilleto in a SB....

happened to me a few weeks ago, still laughting at the SB pilot "But i got 400 dps and you have 50 how u no dead? "


yet another guy having no clue how haulers are shotdown... go back mining guys

LOL
There's no set WAY to kill a hauler. You just shoot at it and it dies. It's a hauler. It's got no guns, nearly no defense, no speed and a sig radius big enough to blot out the sun.

Learn to shoot actual ships Harry.
PS: You suck.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#129 - 2013-09-05 09:04:34 UTC
Are haulers that large?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#130 - 2013-09-05 09:05:58 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Irsam Samri wrote:
I've been doing missions in low sec and pirate space. I spent 2 weeks grinding missions to be able to do level 3 missions, and the reward? 1,000 LP , 800,000 isk on average for a level 3 mission. at 1,000 isk an LP that's a whopping 1,800,000 for a level 3 mission. Why would people bother leaving high sec to do missions if the reward is negligable?

I'm in an 80 mil t2 fit cruiser and can complete about 3 missions an hour.

I come from the game Ultima Online so I prefer to be in low sec but there is no incentive, anyone explain to me why I shouldnt go back to high sec?

Your KB would suggest you spend a majority of your time in null and lo. Posting in a loosely veiled nerf HS thread.

Underlined the parts I'm confused by.

Yes, he said he spent time in null and low-sec, and his killboard shows that.

What's so surprising? Not everyone has a dozen alts.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#131 - 2013-09-05 09:58:52 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Are haulers that large?

They're like battlecruiser size, and that increases due to them being shield tanked. You can't armor tank them, since if you did, you use your lows for tank, and you should have hull tanked them. Their speed and natural HP being low means that without being smaller than a regular cruiser, they are super easy to blap.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#132 - 2013-09-05 16:02:11 UTC
Hey harry you should totes train for a Nyx - built in immunity to warp disruption! Surely your dream ship?

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#133 - 2013-09-05 16:14:00 UTC
First off, good man for leaving highsec!

Secondly, lvl 3 missions are pants, regardless of where you do them. What you should be looking to do is level 5 missions, or perhaps some epic arcs! Though, they're definately not for the faint hearted, can't be done solo (some exceptions i hear), and will attract pirates to you like a moth to a flame!

Though in all honesty, what you really want to be doing is looking to get into a nullsec corporation. Thats where the real risk/reward starts to rule.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#134 - 2013-09-05 23:57:18 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Hey harry you should totes train for a Nyx - built in immunity to warp disruption! Surely your dream ship?


This is a good idea. Nyxes have way more slots for warp stabs.

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