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Time for captcha ingame?
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Tim Ryder
Flippin DaBird Corporation 2
#41 - 2013-09-04 15:16:57 UTC
I'd guess that removing the lower 100 ISK fee for changing an order, requiring you to pay broker fees, would put quite the damper on the issue too.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#42 - 2013-09-04 15:39:41 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Why not just remove the lowest-order-gets-the-sale feature?

Assuming you are not being funny here, I may be silly to do this.

So, you don't want players to be able to compare pricing?

The choice of who to buy from is arbitrary, it just happens to match the lowest offered price frequently.

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Chronos Astre
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-09-04 16:01:03 UTC
I don't do market orders, so this would not impact me in any way.

I do think, however, that questions asked plainly would be WAY better than captcha. A random choice of: how many people are in local, what system are you in, who is placing this order, and a few others would be infinitely more legible and less infuriating than captcha.

I did just today find out that if I don't want to support the .01ers, I have no way of giving my sale to the higher price, as it just pays the seller at the lowest price the higher figure instead. This upsets me as a buyer, and though I understand the reason (if you can choose who to buy from at a specific price, it's a means of transfering money to anyone able to place a sell order, including a trial account), it would seem to me the solution to that problem would be to prevent trial accounts from placing sell orders, and letting us pick if we want to pay the higher price.
Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-09-04 17:14:49 UTC
+1

"What's the only named system in syndicate?"
Mag's
Azn Empire
#45 - 2013-09-05 01:07:28 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
And on week later, when all the market bots have been patched, you're left with thousands of players who get pissed off by the bloody things.

Bots are better at captcha than humans are. All putting the things in would do is drive players out, while the bots just kept on going.

As for the questions, tell me. What language would they be in? And what about the players who don't speak them? We have Russian, German and Japanese clients, but what about the French? the Spanish? The Hungarians, Polish, Koreans, and whoever the hell else plays?

tl:dr, biomass yourself.
QFT

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-09-05 03:00:47 UTC
There are people who use bots. Hell you can even go to youtube and watch demos of people using bots. That being said there are many many more who are not botting. Jita has how many people on? Rarely less than 2000, and even if only half that are doing market manipulation on high-turn over items (like all the noob tutorials convientiently tell them to) your going to see undercutting on everything.
I moved on to Hek and Rens and some of my orders on my market alt don't get undercut for days, I recently had one that I didn't have to change for a week and a half and it was a high-turn over item. If you don't like being 0.01 ISK'd try a diffrent market. You will proably see your % of profit go up as well.
Dolph Carebear
Adohivatal
#47 - 2013-09-05 08:46:12 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
No idea why the obvious solution is not being discussed.

Automate the price dropping feature for EVERYONE.

Allow the player to set a minimum value, below which the system will not operate.
Have a starting value, which the system will automatically climb towards if no competition exists.

Being AFK, it can compete with any other "automated" play very effectively.

Live players can take advantage of the entire system quite easily too, if they are clever.

(Bob wants to sell Item X for XX ISK. He will buy more stock for resale at another location if his competition drops below a certain price, so he wins either way. If he depletes his competitors stock, then he sets the prices here, as well as has inventory for other location)


Over 9,000 times this.

Limit orders. Sort of how the real markets work.

http://www.sec.gov/answers/limit.htm

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