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So I left high sec, and the risk/reward sucks.
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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2013-09-04 14:53:06 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
strange you just lost 1 billion of haulers, but you refuse to recognize...


One billion isk is a small price to pay for the fun we have making fun of your warp stabbed bombers in our intel channels.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-09-04 14:53:32 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Demica Diaz wrote:
As for Harry and Lucas, come on guys its just a game. As long as we are having fun in this game, its worth playing right? Who cares how other guy plays EVE. By end of day whoever had good time playing EVE is winner.

Harry's too stupid to learn to be a winner, even when he's given step by step instructions.
When his sub runs out he's quitting, then the winner is the whole community.

Someone taught him how to shoot cyno ships?


Dont you go talking like that about The Young God, The Guardian Deity of the Cynoblaping Art lest you get punished like dirty ignorant bad unskilled noob carebear you are!


















srsly though how long u guys plan to feed the troll?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#103 - 2013-09-04 14:54:30 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
strange you just lost 1 billion of haulers, but you refuse to recognize...

I lost a billion in haulers?

Harry Forever wrote:
but you did not shoot anything since 1 month, however you lost a 200m mackinaw... is that the reason why you are so angry about people like me?

Yeah, lost a mack, bounced off a rock, got laughed at by my corp, it happens, not the end of the world.

I'm not angry at you Harry, I feel sorry for you bro. Being that bad at EVE, and yet so delusional. You're a very special boy Harry, and one day someone might like you for being you, but it's not today, and it won't be someone from here.

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2013-09-04 14:56:38 UTC
Digits Kho wrote:
srsly though how long u guys plan to feed the troll?


Harry is not a troll...he is the greatest threat to cyno ships and untanked haulers Deklein has ever seen.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#105 - 2013-09-04 14:57:31 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Digits Kho wrote:
srsly though how long u guys plan to feed the troll?


Harry is not a troll...he is the greatest threat to cyno ships and untanked haulers Deklein has ever seen.

Yeah, trolls don't believe the **** they're selling. Harry actually believe he's doing well lol.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#106 - 2013-09-04 15:00:57 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
I will upgrade another 3 month, I think you guys deserve some more

So what you are saying, is us harassing you has made you buy 3 more months of gametime? Awesome! We still win!.
and CCP, you are welcome.

Harry Forever wrote:
I invented this art, keep talking about it... tells everybody how much you guys care about them

seems you only have those cynokills to think about... strange

Cyno ships got shot a long time before you joined. And the reason that's all people talk to you about is because that's all you kill. Poor little Harry.

This is great, another 3 months of fun.

I hope you hadn't given away "your stuff" prior to this fateful decision

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#107 - 2013-09-04 15:02:03 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Digits Kho wrote:
srsly though how long u guys plan to feed the troll?


Harry is not a troll...he is the greatest threat to cyno ships and untanked haulers Deklein has ever seen.

Yeah, trolls don't believe the **** they're selling. Harry actually believe he's doing well lol.

Untanked haulers, you say

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#108 - 2013-09-04 15:03:12 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
strange you just lost 1 billion of haulers, but you refuse to recognize...

I lost a billion in haulers?

Harry Forever wrote:
but you did not shoot anything since 1 month, however you lost a 200m mackinaw... is that the reason why you are so angry about people like me?

Yeah, lost a mack, bounced off a rock, got laughed at by my corp, it happens, not the end of the world.

I'm not angry at you Harry, I feel sorry for you bro. Being that bad at EVE, and yet so delusional. You're a very special boy Harry, and one day someone might like you for being you, but it's not today, and it won't be someone from here.

This character's last losses were some dominixes a year ago or something. Look it up !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2013-09-04 15:06:35 UTC
keep in mind guys, he will punish you
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#110 - 2013-09-04 15:13:57 UTC
if only he ha some friends to go hotdropping with, no one would expect that

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2013-09-04 15:18:55 UTC
better watch it or he will find out who ur alts are, find out where u live, murder ur ship , leave the battered wrecks on the undock for demoralizing purposes and keep your cyno as a trophy
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#112 - 2013-09-04 15:32:53 UTC
He's actually been around my alts, but he didn't try anything because they were obvious bait

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#113 - 2013-09-04 15:54:13 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
you don't understand much about bombers, you just reapeat what you did read on the web

there is not time to get into position with celestials, the target long is gone, but how should you know... you think they are waiting for you while you get into position right? maybe the reason why you never made a solokill in a bomber, wherelse i made over 80 now... you can do your carebear tactics that your read on the web, what i do is a bit more aggressive gameplay, nothing for the faint of heart... just stick to your fleets there you be safe, this is not your business

I recommend you guys stop responding to my fitting, the only thing you explain to me is that you have no clue about the game

See: "Waah, you dont understand!"
Yes, my industry character tends to only go into bombers in fleets.
1. If you don't have time to get in line with the celestial, you warped to the target from a stupid angle.
2. I know from experience how bombers work, and nerfing the shite out of their scan resolution is a dumb idea.
3. Your "solo kills" are industry ships. You could solo kill them with a noobie frigate and a point.

At the end of the day Harry you are a truly awful EVE pilot, that claims to be amazing while providing no evidence. The amount of bombers you've lost shows that you are a terrible pilot with no idea how to fly your ship.
You can run around screaming "you know nothing, i know everything, you all suck" like a 7 year old all you want, but most of us actually know how to play eve so we can tell at a glance that you're full of ****. You're not fooling anyone here.

It would take you literally a few minutes to find some better tactics and better methods to improve your skills, but you'd rather just be awful at the game then cry about how it should be changed. EPIC loser.

lol, nice edit:
Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing you explain to me is that you have no clue about the game, with sensor booster you can have the exact same locktime like a normal bomber, however you don't need to lock when you bomb stuff, and when you play differenty maybe camp a gate, you can simply switch off the warb stabs as well, did you hear about that?

so you have many options to use warb stabs, however you won't find it on the web, you just find out when you use your own brain, something you guys seem to be resistant against

So you want to use a mid slot and 2 low slots just so you can try to avoid being pointed, even though you should be avoiding getting targeted? This is where you are chucking extra mods on just to counter the fact that you can't fly the ship properly.
And turning off the stabs means you wasted 2 slots.

I don't need to "find it on the web" since I've been flying bombers for years. "using your brain" is not something you seem to be very good at Harry. If you're so superior at fitting bombers, how come you lose so many?

It's not even like you thought about your fit. When you fitted your bomber you probably put the stabs on first then said "now what else fits...". This is typical of new players who get one thing in their head then refuse to move off of it. The DC2 was another module people tended to refuse to go without, even to their detriment. And do even get me started on the overuse of 1600mm plate. Jamming on every module and rig to expand your powergrid enough to chuck as many plates on the ship as possible, then getting blapped in seconds for being slow as anything (nearly as slow as your mind Harry) and heavy as a small moon, with no resists.

pretty sure he's the kind of uy who would try to solo a stilleto in a SB....

happened to me a few weeks ago, still laughting at the SB pilot "But i got 400 dps and you have 50 how u no dead? "
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#114 - 2013-09-04 15:59:39 UTC
Perhaps the OP's Problem is "Level 3 Missions", not where he is running them.

For example, for many moons I missioned in a 0.1 low-sec System nearby to CVA's nullsec holdings in the Providence region. Level 4's (not 3's) would consistently rake in quality portions of LP's and isk, often 20-40 mil isk in value per hour, less if salvaging.

Certainly there was no shortage of risk, Amarr low-sec and Provi both being famous haunts for PvP'ers looking for a target-rich environement and locals who'll fight (often stupidly).

I would contend the problem with low-sec missions is not their reward, but the reward of high-sec missions, which given the almost negligible risk reward perhaps much higher than is appropriate.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#115 - 2013-09-04 16:05:13 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
I would contend the problem with low-sec missions is not their reward, but the reward of high-sec missions, which given the almost negligible risk reward perhaps much higher than is appropriate.

Heresy

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#116 - 2013-09-04 16:06:09 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's not even like you thought about your fit. When you fitted your bomber you probably put the stabs on first then said "now what else fits...". This is typical of new players who get one thing in their head then refuse to move off of it. The DC2 was another module people tended to refuse to go without, even to their detriment. And do even get me started on the overuse of 1600mm plate. Jamming on every module and rig to expand your powergrid enough to chuck as many plates on the ship as possible, then getting blapped in seconds for being slow as anything (nearly as slow as your mind Harry) and heavy as a small moon, with no resists.

DC2 can be handy sometimes, as are 1600mm plates

I'd love to see a 1600mm crammed on a bomber though

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#117 - 2013-09-04 16:13:12 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's not even like you thought about your fit. When you fitted your bomber you probably put the stabs on first then said "now what else fits...". This is typical of new players who get one thing in their head then refuse to move off of it. The DC2 was another module people tended to refuse to go without, even to their detriment. And do even get me started on the overuse of 1600mm plate. Jamming on every module and rig to expand your powergrid enough to chuck as many plates on the ship as possible, then getting blapped in seconds for being slow as anything (nearly as slow as your mind Harry) and heavy as a small moon, with no resists.

DC2 can be handy sometimes, as are 1600mm plates

I'd love to see a 1600mm crammed on a bomber though

Oh, don;t get me wrong, they are useful. I have ships with 1600mm plate, and plenty with a DC2. The problem is over-reliance on them. Someone sees a 1600mm plate and say "HOW MUCH ARMOR?!?!?", and the next thin you know they've got a battleship with as much plate as you can jam on it with lows and rigs used to expand the grid, then medium guns, because they are so fixated on using the plate, they can;t see that it is crippling the ship.

WCS is the same for Harry, and for some other pilots. They don;t see that the CPU usage can be crippling to a small ship (as you can see from Harry's rig and Co-Pro 2 selection), and that the extended targeting time is more likely to kill them than a scram. Flown properly, a bomber should not need warp core stabs, and in fact are worse off with them.

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2013-09-04 16:49:04 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
WCS is the same for Harry, and for some other pilots. They don;t see that the CPU usage can be crippling to a small ship (as you can see from Harry's rig and Co-Pro 2 selection), and that the extended targeting time is more likely to kill them than a scram. Flown properly, a bomber should not need warp core stabs, and in fact are worse off with them.


Actually the biggest problem is that Harry thinks they make him immune to bubbles.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2013-09-04 16:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Moneta Curran
Harry Forever wrote:
Moneta Curran wrote:
Last time I checked, barely being able to keep your K:D above 1 in a campaign against industrials and cyno alts is nothing to brag about.

You seem to be under the impression that more people are involved in "hunting" you than those who happen to find themselves on grid with that stabbed bomber of yours..

Nope.

Your only lasting legacy will be a forum reputation as a surprisingly dense blow hard with a questionable grasp on objective reality.


as there is just one or two enemy ships up there, and all others are blue to eachother, yes the hunt is after those two...


You didn't read my message correctly, try again. The CFC is not rallying to deal with you. You are not making anything near an impact. You strive to be a pain in their ass, but in reality you barely qualify as a pimple.

Also, this is the second time I have to point out that you 'blocked' me after you've stated as much.
This only adds to the impression that you are full of excrement.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#120 - 2013-09-04 17:28:39 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Moneta Curran wrote:
Last time I checked, barely being able to keep your K:D above 1 in a campaign against industrials and cyno alts is nothing to brag about.

You seem to be under the impression that more people are involved in "hunting" you than those who happen to find themselves on grid with that stabbed bomber of yours..

Nope.

Your only lasting legacy will be a forum reputation as a surprisingly dense blow hard with a questionable grasp on objective reality.


as there is just one or two enemy ships up there, and all others are blue to eachother, yes the hunt is after those two...


You didn't read my message correctly, try again. The CFC is not rallying to deal with you. You are not making anything near an impact. You strive to be a pain in their ass, but in reality you barely qualify as a pimple.

Also, this is the second time I have to point out that you 'blocked' me after you've stated as much.
This only adds to the impression that you are full of excrement.

Every now and then some badguy ends up caught and exploded, there have to be some bored people who are killing them.

Maybe he means some of those.

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