EVE General Discussion

Dear CCP,

Warp stabs are not the answer to your care bear problem. I just checked out these new haulers, and found they have plenty of low slots that use to be full of cargo expanders. Now that cargo expanders won't really do much for these new PI, mineral, and ore holds people will start filling every low they have with warp core stabs. I would like to either see an agility penalty added to warp core stabs or less low slots on these new haulers so i can at least catch them without having both a faction and T2 scram taking up 2 of my mids. It's bad enough I have to fit a warp scram worth the price of my ship to catch most W-space dwellers but to have 2 mid slots taken up by warp scrams is a bit much.

Best wishes
Lexar Mundi



(Yes I know bubbles are great, but when most W-space dwellers log off at the first sign of combat now days and you don't see them again for weeks.... Also the fact indy ships are... err sorry use to be fun to hunt solo in a scan ship with poor dps yeah those days have ended. There will be a lot less solo WH roamers after the last few patches we have seen.)

except adding agility penalties to stabs wouldn't make sense
also if you can't properly hold down a guy who knows how to fly haulers, that's your problem, not CCP's

Are you saying it's all too difficult for you now and you can't cope?

I can cope, but i would like to fly more than an Arazu when i go WH diving.

nah most W-space dwellers don't log in but to update skills/PI anymore :P

Most of the time I'm sitting in a pilgrim or a prote 80km off of a tower waiting days or weeks for someone to log in in a random WH while i play another game. If I even log on at all. W space is dead.

I think hes taking a shot at me because I'm in a W-space corp.

Because we all know W-space people never try to kill anyone in low sec. *sarcasm*

Maybe I'm just being dense here - it's possible, it's late and I'm tired - but I'm struggling to see what your point is. Unless you're saying that the change is bad because it means you now can't do what you want to do in the type of ship you want to do it in? But then you say you can cope if you fly a different ship, so I'm not sure what the big deal is..? I mean, choosing the right ship for the job is just part of the game, isn't it?

What I am saying is it's pretty hard to have every ship with you when you WH dive Normally I would fly a pilgrim, Prote, ect. Something with a probe launcher, a cloak so i don't run off half of W space by being decloaked, and either dps or neuts. a lot of these ships have very specific mid slots you need to be able to defend yourself and attack targets of opportunity. In W space you can search 15 wormholes and find 1 target. If you miss that target your entire night is shot. Its either going to be some guy running sites, or it's going to be a hauler doing PI. Now instead of being able to catch the hauler and the guy running sites, depending on what every i find that night, I will have a 50/50 chance i brought the right ship with me to catch one or the other. If i bring the ship that can withstand rats+ a dps ship shooting at me I cant catch the hauler. If i bring the ship that can catch the hauler (Most likely an Arazu because of how many mids it's got.) I won't be able to touch the guy running sites. It's not about "Oh look at me I can attack a hauler with no way of fighting back." it's more like "Oh hey I've been looking for PvP for hours and i finally found something to shoot.

I will make sure to tell my drones to do that when I am flying my pilgrim next time. Tengu ehhh maybe if my missiles get to the target fast enough. But yes you are right I could probably do that in my prote.

I see so now catching haulers will ACTUALLY make you think and plan, unlike before, and you're sad about that??