Wormholes

When I first joined eve (a few months after crucible), reading about wormholes and how mysterious they were supposed to be always fascinated me. Claiming an isolated island that always opened up to a new area of space the next day was one of my goals. It would offer me a good home turf for defending, and a new hunting ground with the next coming static and those pesky K162's.

Then I actually started to get into wormholes when I though my skills were sufficient enough to defend a lower class one. The fact that when I find a wormhole and simply google the wormhole identifier and it will tell me where it leads too, isn't very appealing to the whole 'mysterious unknown' thing. I'm ok with looking at the information and it giving me a general idea, but being able to find out exactly what class it leads to is a buzzkill. Also when I do enter that wormhole I can just google the Jsig and it gives me all the information I need about that wormhole. When I use sites like static mapper and dotlan, and then combine that with D-scan and the occasional combat probes, I automatically know everything about that wormhole and its mom . . . all in 2 minutes. I don't know about you but being able to find out that much information about anything in that short of time doesn't make it very mysterious.

A few solutions for this:
- Make D-scan unavailable in wormholes, like local. If this brings up too many whiners maybe reduce the D-scan range to 2-3 AU, this way you can scan short range and be able to see another ship incoming and be able to warp out in time.
- Disable the API information for wormholes, that way sites like Dotlan and Static Mapper aren't able to give you a readout of the entire wormhole within seconds.
- Get rid of the wormhole identifiers. Being able to google "N432" and have it tell me exactly where it goes is bad, really bad. Still give out the "this wormhole will lead to dangerous unknown space" information but have it just be called "unidentified wormhole" instead of something like "Wormhole N432".
- Instead of the Jsig being in the upper left of my screen, make it say something like "Unidentified System", "Unidentified Dangerous System", and "Unidentified Deadly System". This way the exact class of the wormhole will remain unknown until someone runs a few sites.

I know you want me to post how this will affect gameplay, well I think that these changes - along with others in this thread - will make wormhole more alive and vibrant. They were introduced as the "scary systems that bring along new and exciting fun". With the way they are now they are just way to stagnant.

~~Other ideas in this thread that I fully support~~
- Make sleepers camp wormholes (not all of them, make it something like rats and null gates), and attack you if you are in a safe for too long. Maybe even have them skirmish with a POS every now and again.
- Capital class sleepers. 'nuff said
- "Arena" like w-space that have large amounts of ABC ores and maybe even Ice where you can't anchor structures inside of it and have large amounts of incoming and outgoing wormholes.
- Have more wandering wormholes. Out of all the times I've lived in various wormholes(around 8 months all together) I've only seen two non-static and non-K162 wormholes, and they weren't even in my home system, they were just in some random hole I was scanning at the time.
- Make C1-4's have capital escalations, even if they are smaller than normal. If we are determined to build a carrier or dread in a C1-4 we should be able to have all the capital luxuries that C5-6's have.

A wormhole overhaul expansion is way overdue. The metagame for wormholes have gone way past what CCP has expected, starting with people saying "lets anchor a permanent POS in here", and personally I think CCP needs to take another look at them with a more modern mindset with the current wormhole metagame in mind. I know CCP probably has the winter expansion's theme picked out so if it isn't wormholes, make it so that next years summer expansion's general theme is wormholes.

Chitsa can we possibly get a summary of the stuff you filtered out from this thead ?

I don't really see how this fixes anything. So without d-scan people will just drop combats, except nobody will be able to see the combats = no chance to escape.

I have no problem with people having fair warning to try and get out of sites before the pain train arrives.



What information are you trying to make unavailable, kill information? Jump information was already disabled (may or may not have been related to people using jump statistics to correlate wormhole connections *whistles*)



This wont achieve much. You can tell where a wormhole leads by it's colour (you can even tell the k-space region).



Colour of the skybox is a dead giveaway. I have no problem with the identifier being removed (not that I support it), but it shouldn't be for making the "class of system" unknown.

1) Problem: Threads like this inviting the dirtiest of dirty to get their grubby fingers in WH space and F it up royally.

Solution: Get rid of WH CSM's and fade back into obscurity.

2) Problem: People have plateaued in their WH careers and made it boring for themselves, now want stupid changes to entertain themselves that everybody has to live with.

Solution: Get the hell outta WH space if your bored, you probably belong in null anyway.

3) Problem: WH dwellers who whine more than null bears.

Solution: See solution #2

Ridiculous, you can make way more isk on a C2 data site in sleeper loot than you can in "can" loot. Please CCP take away my money.

Wormholers are the only demographic ready to start hunger strikes and self-immolations over a hypothetical nerf that has not happened yet and may never happen, based solely on a very old dev quote from a dev who is no longer in charge of rebalancing.

The time to get angry about changes is when Fozzie, Rise or Ytterbium make a thread in Features&Ideas discussion with actual proposed changes. Instead almost every thread is contaminated with outrage over the non-existent t3 nerf. This hilarious behaviour makes us wormholers look like hysterical little girls.

You only need look as far as the reasonable things vote results.

man that whole thing was a gigantic joke.

Sensible wormholers don't want T3s nerfed, because if they're nerfed demand will drop, and that's a sizeable chunk of the income from wormholes. Be sensible, fellow wormholers, and do not advocate for a hit to your own income!

What we need is for people to fly many T3s and to get them blown up in quantity.

I would want to get rid of the flying cans. After expending a good time opening them you may end up gtabbing tonsh!t od sh!it