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Ressiv
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#241 - 2013-09-03 10:38:45 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/08/07/ns-cyberbullying-law-rehtaeh.html
2nd link on google, but there's plenty of them.

Cool story bro, but that's not a law stating that you cant make fun of gullible idiots, which is what you seem to be saying.
Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#242 - 2013-09-03 10:39:43 UTC
He comprimised his Morals because of greed. noone forced him into anything.
but were the ones with the problem right?
Louise Beethoven
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#243 - 2013-09-03 10:39:54 UTC
Ressiv wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

How come at the end of the recording then, they say "by the way we've been recording this. Do we have your permission to publish it" he then clearly say no, they then say "so we have your permission" which again he says no, now it's published.


To me that seems like you need to listen closer .. he first said yeah or something to that effect, then came back on that.

WTF, no he didn't. When asked if he minded if the conversation was put on minerbumping he immediately said yes I do mind.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#244 - 2013-09-03 10:40:22 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
They purposely recorded him and convinced him to do humiliating things to publicly display his humiliation
Kind of like those Australian radio DJs who made that prank call to that English nurse.

Oh god.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#245 - 2013-09-03 10:42:11 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
Responsibility is different from legal obligation.


Responsibility might be taken as a notion or a word for some but the FACT is, what determinate your responsibility is not your morality or exceptional education given by your parents you might as well have none doesn't matter, it's laws who determinate this.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#246 - 2013-09-03 10:42:52 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
They purposely recorded him and convinced him to do humiliating things to publicly display his humiliation
Kind of like those Australian radio DJs who made that prank call to that English nurse.


That ended pretty well indeed Twisted

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#247 - 2013-09-03 10:42:53 UTC
Ressiv wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

How come at the end of the recording then, they say "by the way we've been recording this. Do we have your permission to publish it" he then clearly say no, they then say "so we have your permission" which again he says no, now it's published.


To me that seems like you need to listen closer .. he first said yeah or something to that effect, then came back on that.

No, he didn't He said "No" which was spoken over by one of the Erotia1 guys, who then said "So we have your permission" to which he responded "No, you do not have my permission".
Go ahead, go listen again. Run a filter if you can't hear it through the noise, but he clearly said "No" twice.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#248 - 2013-09-03 10:43:10 UTC
embrel wrote:
could you be interested in a loan? with just a small collateral?

How much are you offering?

Oh god.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#249 - 2013-09-03 10:43:38 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
They purposely recorded him and convinced him to do humiliating things to publicly display his humiliation
Kind of like those Australian radio DJs who made that prank call to that English nurse.


That ended pretty well indeed Twisted

Well it didn't end in anyone being charged.

Oh god.
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#250 - 2013-09-03 10:44:03 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
You can go **** yourself. People like you are the sludge of the community.

Wow, that kind of hostility is uncalled for in this civil environment.

I'm with Kell. People like you really are the sludge of the community.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#251 - 2013-09-03 10:44:07 UTC
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
He comprimised his Morals because of greed. noone forced him into anything.
but were the ones with the problem right?


This. But this reminds me of something else, actually.

Have you ever watched Big Brother??

Do you think the producers of that show should be charged with bullying? It's the same thing, making people jump through hoops of self-humiliation for prizes and the like. None of the contestants are forced to do anything, they always have an option to get out of it at any time. No one is holding them there against their will, they are there of their own accord.

The same applies with the guy in this recording. It's just another episode of Big Brother.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Nick Kumamoto
Doomheim
#252 - 2013-09-03 10:44:28 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
You can go **** yourself. People like you are the sludge of the community.

Wow, that kind of hostility is uncalled for in this civil environment.


You see that is your problem. Yours and Eroticas (if you aren't one and the same) actions say one thing about you and then you try play it off as if you were somehow insulted when people get a trifle irate. It (you) has a miasma of hypocrisy floating around you.


Most of what I write in terms of posts and/or comments is meant as "tongue-in-cheek", i.e. part irony, part sarcasm but meant in good fun.

On a more serious note. I want to marry CCP karkur. Is there a EVE dating service I can call?

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#253 - 2013-09-03 10:45:04 UTC
Ressiv wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/08/07/ns-cyberbullying-law-rehtaeh.html
2nd link on google, but there's plenty of them.

Cool story bro, but that's not a law stating that you cant make fun of gullible idiots, which is what you seem to be saying.

I'm saying that laws preventing cyber bullying are getting tougher. This is cyber bullying.
You can blame the victim all you want, that just makes you as bad as the bullies.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#254 - 2013-09-03 10:45:35 UTC
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
He comprimised his Morals because of greed. noone forced him into anything.
but were the ones with the problem right?


ehm, his problems are quite obvious and none I saw said something different.

to bolster ones ego by picking on the most stupid... whoever needs this for sure doesn't have any ego-issues, no?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#255 - 2013-09-03 10:46:28 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
"No, you do not have my permission".

Does it matter?

Oh god.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#256 - 2013-09-03 10:46:28 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
He comprimised his Morals because of greed. noone forced him into anything.
but were the ones with the problem right?


This. But this reminds me of something else, actually.

Have you ever watched Big Brother??

Do you think the producers of that show should be charged with bullying? It's the same thing, making people jump through hoops of self-humiliation for prizes and the like. None of the contestants are forced to do anything, they always have an option to get out of it at any time. No one is holding them there against their will, they are there of their own accord.

The same applies with the guy in this recording. It's just another episode of Big Brother.

Except the big brother guys sign contract to accept what they are doing, and get paid a shockingly large amount of money to allow both the act and the publication of the recording.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#257 - 2013-09-03 10:47:31 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
"No, you do not have my permission".

Does it matter?

Does it matter if someone explicitly tells you you do not have their permission to publicly release a recording of their voice, then you do it anyway? Yes, yes it matters.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#258 - 2013-09-03 10:48:26 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
"No, you do not have my permission".

Does it matter?

Does it matter if someone explicitly tells you you do not have their permission to publicly release a recording of their voice, then you do it anyway? Yes, yes it matters.

Why?

Oh god.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#259 - 2013-09-03 10:48:30 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
embrel wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
embrel wrote:
(5) using his name, image, likeness or voice for a purpose other than the legitimate information of the public;

It's legitimate information of the public.



I will claim the same as soon I get my hands on your naked selfies:)

EDIT: I didn't listen in. He really accepted it to be recorded? What an idiot. In these cases I tend to question whether those people are actually legally "capable of acting". Guess his wife should take over.

Depends how you acquire them and Erotica always makes sure the client knows they are being recorded.

How come at the end of the recording then, they say "by the way we've been recording this. Do we have your permission to publish it" he then clearly say no, they then say "so we have your permission" which again he says no, now it's published.

To me that seems like:
1. He didn't know it was being recorded, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to be told at this point.
2. He clearly stated his refusal to allow the publishing of the recording.

At least over here, you'd be in serious hot water for publishing voice recordings that you were explicitly told was not authorised.

It's a criminal offence to make a voice recording both in the US and here in Australia without the permission of the person being recorded. Here in Australia that comes under the covert surveillance act. In US not sure. Fines / Jail time.

Both have nothing to do with the tort of defamation, which is a civil offence - reparations.

Nevertheless the guy was stupid.



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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#260 - 2013-09-03 10:49:31 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Ressiv wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/08/07/ns-cyberbullying-law-rehtaeh.html
2nd link on google, but there's plenty of them.

Cool story bro, but that's not a law stating that you cant make fun of gullible idiots, which is what you seem to be saying.

I'm saying that laws preventing cyber bullying are getting tougher. This is cyber bullying.
You can blame the victim all you want, that just makes you as bad as the bullies.


Stop right there. What makes it cyber bullying? We've already determined that no one here is legally qualified enough to make this determination just by stating it, so demonstrate what makes it bullying please. Provide some merit for your claim.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104