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Is Null Really All That Bad?
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Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-13 23:25:40 UTC
I've never been in a null-sec alliance. I've never really done anything in 0.0 (unless you count WHs). But I have been tempted here and there to apply to a null corp. One reason I haven't is because I read countless amounts of whining on the forums about how terrible it is. But, I started wondering today if Null can really be all that bad.

I mean, there are a few thousand people that live out there. They can't all be bored out of their skulls or mad as hell (or bots). There has to be somebody that likes 0.0.

So, would some of you please let the rest of us know what's fun about 0.0?

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-11-13 23:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Theres a lot of fun out in null. Thing is though, just like anywhere else in eve its as fun as you make it. It doesnt have to be a second job like people make it out to be, just get with the right crowd.

Find a good corp/alliance and get out and try it, only way youre gonna find out for yourself im afraid.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-13 23:33:10 UTC
you can freely engage in PvP, short for "player versus people" where you roam around in your brand new hurricane and get hotdropped by 30 supercarriers

you can shoot red crosses all day and get hotdropped by 30 supercarriers

it's fun fun fun

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#4 - 2011-11-13 23:33:43 UTC
If you want to learn about null, apply to an alliance (carefully), and give it a shot. Whatever you do, do NOT listen to the ramblings of people who have never lived in nullsec but are totally fine with spewing their malformed opinions and "facts" all over these forums.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-13 23:36:56 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
If you want to learn about null, apply to an alliance (carefully), and give it a shot.


that means contact me and i'll get the ball rolling for you

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#6 - 2011-11-13 23:39:05 UTC
The right allaince can make all the difference.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-11-13 23:41:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
basically you just have to abide by the rules of nullsec

no fools
no bitches
no fatties
no not believin in yourself

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Tarikan
Preload Thorium
Insidious.
#8 - 2011-11-13 23:42:33 UTC
I used to not want to travel in null-sec much until i started in a indy corp, made some money, saw the good bounties on anomalies and had a good ol' time.

Null-sec is not a job, it's what you choose it to be, find a corp or alliance that you'd enjoy being in and caters to what you like to do in Eve and then presto, off to a fun eve experience. I make it sound easier than it is, but whatever you do in high-sec (except for incursions) is always better in null-sec.

Tar
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#9 - 2011-11-13 23:43:38 UTC
Andski wrote:
basically you just have to abide by the rules of nullsec

no fools
no bitches
no fatties
no not believin in yourself


I thought the rules of nullsec were:

1) There are no goons
2) See #1
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#10 - 2011-11-13 23:45:21 UTC
its not about being mad, its about everyone not allied with you being a threat.

null is dangerous if you don't know the art of flying in null.
if you do know, it can be fairly risky but rewarding and often funny as hell

npc null is a lot less rough
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-11-13 23:45:38 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
I mean, there are a few thousand people that live out there. They can't all be bored out of their skulls or mad as hell


You'd be surprised.
zdogg dogpound
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2011-11-13 23:49:49 UTC
Npc null is like the ghetto of eve
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#13 - 2011-11-13 23:50:49 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Pinaculus wrote:
I mean, there are a few thousand people that live out there. They can't all be bored out of their skulls or mad as hell


You'd be surprised.


Nullsec is like RL. If you want something to happen, you have to go and actually do it. You can't wait for things to happen to you. The beauty of it, is that in nullsec, there are zero things holding you back, unlike highsec and lowsec.
Foofad
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-14 00:00:33 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Pinaculus wrote:
I mean, there are a few thousand people that live out there. They can't all be bored out of their skulls or mad as hell


You'd be surprised.


Nullsec is like RL. If you want something to happen, you have to go and actually do it. You can't wait for things to happen to you. The beauty of it, is that in nullsec, there are zero things holding you back, unlike highsec and lowsec.


If by "zero things" you mean "nothing except the major alliance powerblocs cockblocking you." There's a reason powerbloc, cockblock, and hotdrop all rhyme. It's because they're all awful.

Honestly though, 0.0 can be pretty cool. It's just that right now, there's a lot of drama involving the larger alliances and their stranglehold on resources. It's very, very dificult for newcomers to compete anymore as a result. "If you can't beat them, join them" is in full effect, and so things are only getting worse, not better.
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-14 01:14:02 UTC
Morganta wrote:
its not about being mad, its about everyone not allied with you being a threat.

null is dangerous if you don't know the art of flying in null.
if you do know, it can be fairly risky but rewarding and often funny as hell

npc null is a lot less rough


most of the time null is 99% safe people will look out for each others with intel channels

you'll get info like

player x in system y ship h or nv
or
player x with x buddies in system y heading to z

the risk if you watch intel and local is small compaired to the isk you can make

the danger comes when you have to travel anywhere bubbles are not everywhere bt dictors are apart of most gangs

eve is about sin

Scifi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-14 01:53:17 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
The right allaince can make all the difference.


This man speaks the truth. The wrong alliance can end up with you doing more ship spi....er couch sitting then anything. Especially if you're the poor sod who doesn't have the time to devote to a 30-jump roaming fleet or all-day POS-shooting fest.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-14 04:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod
Its not all that bad, if you find a big enough alliance to belong to *cough Red*
who doesnt lose sec every other day.
I just dont like it cause I dont like the idea of when a neut comes in system you have to bail to the station/POS.
Makes me feel like a cockroach an someone flipped on the lights

Hell null is atm safer than high for miners and the like

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Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
#18 - 2011-11-14 04:11:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Comrade Commizzar
Andski wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
If you want to learn about null, apply to an alliance (carefully), and give it a shot.


that means contact me and i'll get the ball rolling for you

************

BWAHAHAHAH!!!

Oh by all means..... contact a Goon for recruitment in zero... and "He'll get the ball rolling for you."

Just be careful that that ball doesn't roll OVER you!


(Andski you guys are incorrigible .)
Yeah I know that word is a bit steep for you,
but I'm sure you can look it up.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-11-14 04:12:37 UTC
Comrade Commizzar wrote:
Andski wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
If you want to learn about null, apply to an alliance (carefully), and give it a shot.


that means contact me and i'll get the ball rolling for you

************

BWAHAHAHAH!!!

Oh by all means..... contact a Goon for recruitment in zero... and "He'll get the ball rolling for you."

Just be careful that that ball doesn't roll OVER you!


Yeah Im betting they silently crapped a big octagonal brick at that thread titled "recruitment scamming bannable"


rofl

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?
Maren Kar
Defenseless Old Women
#20 - 2011-11-14 07:20:02 UTC
Nullsec is exciting. You get an adrenaline rush when you start roaming by yourself or with a small gang.

You can definitely have a lot of fun, just have to find the right group of people to join up with. Also, don't fly what you can't replace... you'll probably be doing a lot of replacing early on.

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