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More immunity for Incursion Runners Required.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#21 - 2011-11-13 20:46:39 UTC
Yeah, I can't say as I have a problem with this.

It may require a change in your logistics fits, or in fleet fittings, but certainly something that can be dealt with.

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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
#22 - 2011-11-13 21:11:56 UTC
This is all very good and informative. However, one thing still reamains a mystery to me:

U mad?

Stop the spamming, not the scamming!
Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#23 - 2011-11-13 21:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradius Calvantia
Just popping in to say a few quick things to all those incursion running bears who can not seem to understand why some of us null players want to shoot them.

1. Your endless fountain of isk generation IS PVP. You are causing inflation in the market, forcing me to pay higher prices for damn near everything these days, including keeping my accounts plexed. If your actions are having an affect on me, I have the right to act against you within the confines of the rules of the game.

2. You are currently fitting obscene amounts of needles "bling" to your incursion running ships. This not only makes you a much more interesting (IE tons of tears) but also a much more profitable target. If you are upset about losing these huge piles of isk, maybe it is time to start fitting your ships to actually be efficient in terms of cost vs effectiveness.

3. As has been pointed out before, correctly fit logi should never be jammed out by a single black bird.

4. Gankmas is coming.

Edit: Real men use a scorp to suicide incursion fleets. Jams, plus instantly nueting out all logi = hilarious and much more effective.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#24 - 2011-11-13 21:31:44 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I demand 1 ISK per SP per hour I remain docked safely in the station in highsec. I should not be required to risk anything in highsec when I make ISK for my PLEXes. Especially not my precious PvE officer fit faction ships.


Its call research agents.

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Tagera
Dog Nation
#25 - 2011-11-13 22:16:07 UTC
As someone who on occasion runs incursions...they're not faucets. They're fire hoses, a good fleet can make about a bil per person in 8 to 10 hours. I was talking to one guy a few months back. He was 3months into the game and had over 17bil saved from just doing incursions. No real risk means crap tons of profit.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2011-11-14 00:42:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Psychotic Monk
You know, there's no warning if you jump through a gate and there's war targets on the other side... definatly petitionable by this logic.

Should we just start petitioning every loss ever? That seems like it might work.

edit because :mad:

Really? Is suicide ganking an exploit now? Are we serious about this? Is CCP trolling us?

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rareden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-11-14 00:45:21 UTC
LMAOO!!! wow carebears are pathetic, your now complaing that suicide ganking is broken and because you cant protect you selfs against it its an exploit.........wow.... its a frgin game mechanic some one shoots you unprovoked then concord kills them, doing it in an incursion is just an excellent way of suicide ganking. seriously carebears just because some one kills you its not an exploit.
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-11-14 01:02:32 UTC
Tagera wrote:
As someone who on occasion runs incursions...they're not faucets. They're fire hoses, a good fleet can make about a bil per person in 8 to 10 hours. I was talking to one guy a few months back. He was 3months into the game and had over 17bil saved from just doing incursions. No real risk means crap tons of profit.



8-10 hours can make a bill as well in null and there is less risk due to intel.

20 minutes a sanctum 35m each is 105m a hour time ten hours 1050m plus you got faction rats as well
ohh thats not even in fleet i also almost forgot escalations

90 days aprox to 3 months thats 94.5b, 5.55 times as much just saying

eve is about sin

Andrei Taganov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-11-14 01:02:40 UTC
Dear Incursion Bears:

The Eve community at large does not like you. Your influence on our game is not good for anyone but yourself, and your interactions with Eve add no texture to the sandbox in which we all live. The only option your senseless and incessant PvE activities offer anyone else who wants to maintain economic space-independence is running Incursions. For this reason, the greater Eve community will continuously target you and everything you hold dear.

Get over it.

~Andrei.
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2011-11-14 01:03:54 UTC
rareden wrote:
LMAOO!!! wow carebears are pathetic, your now complaing that suicide ganking is broken and because you cant protect you selfs against it its an exploit.........wow.... its a frgin game mechanic some one shoots you unprovoked then concord kills them, doing it in an incursion is just an excellent way of suicide ganking. seriously carebears just because some one kills you its not an exploit.


i'll agree suicide ganking is fine, the logi none suicide ganking is not

eve is about sin

Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-11-14 01:06:13 UTC
Andrei Taganov wrote:
Dear Incursion Bears:

The Eve community at large does not like you. Your influence on our game is not good for anyone but yourself, and your interactions with Eve add no texture to the sandbox in which we all live. The only option your senseless and incessant PvE activities offer anyone else who wants to maintain economic space-independence is running Incursions. For this reason, the greater Eve community will continuously target you and everything you hold dear.

Get over it.

~Andrei.


the eve community at large doesn't like anyone thats not blue, even then they might still not like the blues

eve is about sin

Andrei Taganov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-11-14 01:17:27 UTC
Oh, and I almost forgot: 8/10, well trolled OP.

~Andrei.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#33 - 2011-11-14 01:32:16 UTC
I am confused how this all works, doesn't Concord get involved? I don't do incursions, just curious.
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Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2011-11-14 02:21:24 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
I am confused how this all works, doesn't Concord get involved? I don't do incursions, just curious.



Basically the blackbird jams out logistics and causes the shiney ships of the incursion runners to go with out repairs. concord comes and shoots the black bird, but only after the damage has been done.
rareden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-14 02:26:34 UTC
then we get all the shiny faction mods that droped, and how were they able to afford such expensive ships in the first place??? because of op incursions that we are attempting to fix
Kelsi Corynn
Doomheim
#36 - 2011-11-14 02:56:18 UTC
So let me get this straight.
Suicide ECM-ing the logistics pilots of a high sec Incursion fleet.

ME LIKEY

(The first person who thought of this deserves a medal)
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2011-11-14 03:19:47 UTC
Guardian has 2 mid slots - afterburner and ECCM module???
Tagera
Dog Nation
#38 - 2011-11-14 03:23:37 UTC
rareden wrote:
then we get all the shiny faction mods that droped, and how were they able to afford such expensive ships in the first place??? because of op incursions that we are attempting to fix



This man gets it...^^

Nerf the incursions, or better yet. Make concord a non issue in incursion constellations. And let the toaster types have some fun.
Steelshine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-11-14 03:34:17 UTC
Sakurako Kimino wrote:
Tagera wrote:
As someone who on occasion runs incursions...they're not faucets. They're fire hoses, a good fleet can make about a bil per person in 8 to 10 hours. I was talking to one guy a few months back. He was 3months into the game and had over 17bil saved from just doing incursions. No real risk means crap tons of profit.



8-10 hours can make a bill as well in null and there is less risk due to intel.

20 minutes a sanctum 35m each is 105m a hour time ten hours 1050m plus you got faction rats as well
ohh thats not even in fleet i also almost forgot escalations

90 days aprox to 3 months thats 94.5b, 5.55 times as much just saying


Please tell me where these mythical 35m, instantly respawning sanctums are.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#40 - 2011-11-14 03:34:24 UTC
LESS IMMUNITY imo.
And the next Hulkageddon should target them and lvl 4 runners too. Get them scared for their faction fit ships :D

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