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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2013-09-02 20:27:29 UTC
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances


Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.


yea they would ragequit, so true

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2013-09-02 20:29:42 UTC
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.

Harry wants to gank eve online.

Too bad it's tanked.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2013-09-02 20:35:20 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.

Harry wants to gank eve online.

Too bad it's tanked.


EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-09-02 20:40:48 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.

Harry wants to gank eve online.

Too bad it's tanked.


EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?...



But you said it yourself you are quitting this october
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#45 - 2013-09-02 20:46:18 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.

Harry wants to gank eve online.

Too bad it's tanked.


EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?...

But you said it yourself you are quitting this october

I guess he's an october quitter

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#46 - 2013-09-02 20:56:36 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

nice one :D i like the part with "mindless followers" :'D could be written by me... its all so true and even worse, they made this their game... CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

5 million subscribers would turn Eve into a clone every other MMO out there. It's a niche game, that appeals to a niche audience and does so very successfully. Making it appeal to the mass market would ruin it, because we'd end up with a game that has been so watered down from it's original concept it would be unrecognisable.

More subs != a better game.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#47 - 2013-09-02 20:57:01 UTC
Harry Forever is quitting in October? Whatever will the denizens of high sec do?!?!?

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#48 - 2013-09-02 20:58:28 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

nice one :D i like the part with "mindless followers" :'D could be written by me... its all so true and even worse, they made this their game... CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances

5 million subscribers would turn Eve into a clone every other MMO out there. It's a niche game, that appeals to a niche audience and does so very successfully. Making it appeal to the mass market would ruin it, because we'd end up with a game that has been so watered down from it's original concept it would be unrecognisable.

More subs != a better game.

It would drive out goons, that has to be worth it

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2013-09-02 21:09:37 UTC
did the blocked guys say something important? :'D

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
#50 - 2013-09-02 21:14:21 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
did the blocked guys say something important? :'D


What, you missed how they final saw the light, compelled by your brilliant reasoning and started praising you as their saviour because you BLOCKED them? I am disappoint Cry
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#51 - 2013-09-02 21:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Confirming Harry as the saviour of something Roll and that he's finally figured out the block posts functions

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#52 - 2013-09-02 23:56:54 UTC
Saves you from using cynos onto VFK

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Nex Killer
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-09-03 00:35:28 UTC
What are you doing wrong? I multibox 5 accounts and haven't paid for a sub fee in 8 months on any of my accounts... I think your doing it all wrong mate.
T'Laar Bok
#54 - 2013-09-03 00:39:29 UTC
Impossible to police. Besides all my Alts are "Mains" is CCP going to keep an eye on every account to make sure "Mains" are not being used as/like Alts?

Amphetimines are your friend.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok
Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-09-03 00:40:11 UTC
I guess 'Ban alts/bots' is the topic flavor of the week.

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#56 - 2013-09-03 00:45:32 UTC
Evil alts Big smile

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2013-09-03 01:13:12 UTC
T'Laar Bok wrote:
Impossible to police.



What this guy said. Regardless of how you feel about alts, there's no way CCP could stop them, which makes any discussion about it pretty pointless.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-09-03 02:28:06 UTC
Instead of whining on the forums, go and do something. Get a smartbombing battleship and blow stuff up.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2013-09-03 02:33:17 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Instead of whining on the forums, go and do something. Get a smartbombing battleship and blow stuff up.


Nah we're all quitting in October in solidarity with Harry.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#60 - 2013-09-03 03:42:16 UTC
Isn't october when N3 will wipe us out?

Oh I see, spinning already are we

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?