Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If it's "too easy" now then why is it at the lowest it has been in the history of the game?

As for the risk vs reward, lets take a look:

Losing your ship is guaranteed. Sizable sec hits are guaranteed. People having kill rights on you is guaranteed.

Know what isn't guaranteed? Getting the kill in the first place. What else isn't guaranteed? The payout from the loot fairy.

So don't spew this moronic crap about the risk vs reward being skewed too far in favour of gankers, because it's laughably false.

Additionally, paying a little to kill a lot is evidence of balance - otherwise you end up in the situation where bigger is always better, and where the new guy, or the little guy, can never ever outdo the older, bigger guys. That's broken, bro.

It's also a misrepresentation of costs, because on top of the isk there is also the fact you have to get a dozen or more players on at the same time, and organized, and planning and calculating what you need, and putting in effort and doing the legwork in getting the targets. To just look at the isk worth of the catalysts vs the isk worth of the freighter and not at all the other things involved in the situation is extreme tunnel vision imo

I cant fly as much stuff with an amour fit because of the nerf to cargo. I cannot carry as much cargo with the cargo fit because of the reduced tank every cargo extender gives.

No matter what fit I cant carry as much cargo as now. Your plan is a nerf.

I'll agree to disagree with you on the validity of the RL piracy comparison, but Infinity is getting a hard rap because he/she is absolutely certain that they're right, about absolutely everything, ever.

freighters don't need any overhaul. there's absolutely nothing wrong with freighters. nothing does their job better, nothing makes them obsolete, there's sufficient variation between the four freighters.

i fail to see how freighters aren't balanced.

no, people crying about losing a freighter carrying 50bn isk of junk while on auto pilot doesn't mean they aren't balanced.

Every Ship gonna get an overhaul, Deal with it.

Freighters are fine as is, the base T1 Freighter is designed to move massive quantities of build components; not a years worth of exploration/complex loot. Yes of course they die to 30 destroyers, just like literally every other ship in the game.

Jump Freighters cost 7b, but not because it's supposed to be an invincible cargo container (which it practically is if used properly)- you're paying for the ability to boosh 300k+m3 10ly away; while with maxed skills they are fairly agile and have a decent amount more EHP/Resists. If you fly one with Nomads your align time is similar to that of a Rokh (and you will be pretty damn difficult to gank).

While rebalancing is a thing these days, they might touch on the base stats of a freighter, but your not going to get module slots or innane bonuses; Flying while actually at your keyboard and not afk increases your freighter/JFs survival to damn near 100%.

Funny how the ganker and "intelligent" freighter Pilots are afraid of some small rebalancing, whats wrong do the stupid freighter Pilots do have some points after all?

Most T1 Ships where fine to, but they got changed anyway, some buffed some nerfed. And Jump/ Freighter will get their change regardless if the one or the other side is right or wrong or what ever.

Interesting most people in the forums say they dont like most of the changes.

But what ever, i dont care about freighter just had a blast, Reading this childish Blame Game.

Lol? It's not.

As for the rookie ship silliness, you'd cap a non-reinforced node so... good luck with that.

not sure which forums you're reading then. it's widely accepted that the ship rebalancing is one of the best things to happen to eve for a long time, and the log in figures reflect this last time i checked.