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Introduce "Super Freighter" [New Ship]

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-31 23:11:20 UTC
Hello Space Friends!

My name is Lyris Nairn and I have been playing EVE Online since 2008. I have come to you with something that I think is relevant to many of you, and it is certainly relevant to me! I think we need bigger flying boxes.

Right now the ship with the biggest cargo hold is the Charon, which hauls a little less than a million cubic meters. I do not think this is enough cargo space for some of the really big industrial tycoons, market barons, or logistics folks. I would propose a new class of ship, or perhaps just a single ship usable by any race, that would have an utterly massive cargo hold. The proposed ship would be able to hold 10-100 million cubic meters at least, which would make it a lot more versatile.

Such a ship would allow Sovereignty structures to be moved more easily, as some of them presently require a full freighter to move individually due to their size. Such a ship would allow capital and supercapital production to be streamlined by making it easier to move the capital components and the enormous amount of minerals needed to construct them. Such a ship would be able to more easily supply forward bases for deployed forces, in all areas of space: whenever there is a war between any two parties there is a lot of logistical burden required to move the billions of cubic meters of ships and modules. Such a ship would allow patch day and post-devblog day rushes on the markets to be done more quickly, which would lead to more quickly stabilized prices and quicker payouts for those who benefit from them. Such a ship would also allow someone to actually make profitable use of non-refinery systems in nullsec (by moving an absolutely tremendous volume of ore to a refinery), thus expanding the number of systems that people can use in both NPC and Player Controlled nullsec.

And so on. The benefits of such a huge ship are many. I think this a great idea that will have positive effects on the game.

Let me know what you think in the comments!

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Luc Chastot
#2 - 2013-08-31 23:22:33 UTC
Such a ship could also move capitals into highsec.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Rita Torres
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-08-31 23:24:12 UTC
or how about a covert ops freighter?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-31 23:27:04 UTC
Rita Torres wrote:
or how about a covert ops freighter?

Safety is not really a concern for me, as that can be provided by working with other players.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-31 23:29:56 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
Such a ship could also move capitals into highsec.

Capitals already exist in high sec: Freighters, Jump Freighters, and folks who file "stuck" petitions or acquired them when they could previously be built in high sec. If you're talking about sticking packaged capitals in its cargo, then while that's true a simple change to the packaged volume of capital ships would avoid that "problem" if it's a concern. Alternately folks could be allowed to transport them to highsec all they want, and just not be allowed to assemble them there for whatever fluff reason.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#6 - 2013-08-31 23:41:40 UTC
Seriously, try moving huge quantities of ore sometime.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#7 - 2013-08-31 23:42:22 UTC
Also, if you make it a supercapital I will kill you

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-01 00:21:28 UTC
CCP should make it a supercapital so it won't be able to haul capitals in to highsec.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2013-09-01 00:25:06 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
CCP should make it a supercapital so it won't be able to haul capitals in to highsec.

Yeah but then you what, sit it next to a station on the undock and have normal freighters try to fill up and dock in order to transfer stuff into the station?

Works I guess

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Cade Windstalker
#10 - 2013-09-01 01:37:46 UTC
Moving large volumes of stuff is supposed to be difficult and risky. You're talking about the ability to haul ~9 capital ships. I just don't see this happening.

You would probably be better off asking for a specialized Ore freighter with a massive ore hold since this would at least solve some of the problems with ore compression ratios.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-09-01 02:34:07 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Moving large volumes of stuff is supposed to be difficult and risky. You're talking about the ability to haul ~9 capital ships. I just don't see this happening.

You would probably be better off asking for a specialized Ore freighter with a massive ore hold since this would at least solve some of the problems with ore compression ratios.

And a specialized ship freighter, and a specialized sovereignty module freighter, etc? I can understand risky, but difficulty or annoyance in execution as a game balancing metric doesn't make sense to me.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-09-01 03:26:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Flames
I whole heartedly agree with this. If you've ever built a cap ship you know it's several frieghter loads to build just one cap ship and God help you if you mined in 1 system and need to xfer the ore to another system to refine or did a large mining op and need to move all those mins to market. Not allowing a cap ship to be unpackaged in highsec or just not letting you put a cap ship in the new frieghter at all would prevent bringing cap ships into highsec

*goes off to bath in bleach to wash off the stink of agreeing with a goon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2013-09-01 04:01:41 UTC
It should be like a Freighter with no fittings and have about 10k EHP.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#14 - 2013-09-01 06:42:19 UTC
I refuse to believe Lyris is being serious.

Katrina Oniseki

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#15 - 2013-09-01 07:06:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lephia DeGrande
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Rita Torres wrote:
or how about a covert ops freighter?

Safety is not really a concern for me, as that can be provided by working with other players.


Alone for this Post you get a +1
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-09-01 07:50:56 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I refuse to believe Lyris is being serious.

And why is that exactly?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

CtrlAltDelete Dethahal
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-09-01 07:59:30 UTC
I think a better idea would be to reduce the volume of sov structures and make an ore/mineral freighter.

More annoying than making 2 trips in my Charon is having To pull my Charon out to move like 50k m3. Maybe make freighters faster when they're cargo hold is near empty or something?
To mare
Advanced Technology
#18 - 2013-09-01 08:19:54 UTC
if the superfreighter cant go to highsec itself i could agree with the idea
Vizvig
Savage Blizzard
#19 - 2013-09-01 13:33:33 UTC
We also wanting a uber freighter, bigger and expensive than super freighter.Lol
stoicfaux
#20 - 2013-09-01 14:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Luc Chastot wrote:
Such a ship could also move capitals into highsec.

Cargo Container Ship.

Make the cargo bay specialized so that it can only carry Mega Containers. Each Mega Container can hold a million m3 of cargo and this super-duper freighter can carry X amount of them.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

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