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Introduce "Warp Scramble Probe" (Ammunition/Charges)

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-31 21:27:30 UTC
Hello Space Friends!

My name is Lyris Nairn and I have been playing EVE Online since 2008. I think that I have something to say that is relevant to many of you.

As you all know, there exist charges called "Warp Disrupt Probe" which mimic the effect of a Warp Disruptor within an area of effect around themselves. These are the ammunition used by Interdictors, commonly called "bubbles." These charges allow the Interdictor to "tackle" things in a large area by disrupting their warp drives. But there is no tool by which an Interdictor, or any other ship, can prevent those "tackled" guys from getting away by using their MicroWarpdrives (MWD)! After all, every PVP pilot knows that someone is not truly "tackled" unless they are also scrammed.

I think that CCP should introduce a Warp Scramble Probe which exactly mimics the Warp Disrupt Probe in its deployment (i.e., it deploys its effect in a sphere centered on the deployed charge), but which applies the Warp Scramble effect to targets caught in its area of effect: i.e., targets caught in the effect would not only be unable to activate their warp drives, but also unable to activate their MWD. This new ammunition would be used in exactly the same way as the Warp Disrupt Probe, being fired from an Interdiction Sphere Launcher module fitted to an Interdictor-class ship. As the Warp Scrambler effect is stronger than the Warp Disruptor effect, I think these charges should create a smaller radius effect than the Warp Disrupt Probe.

I think this is a great idea that would change the game in a positive way. Let me know what you think in the comments!

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-31 21:28:59 UTC
O Christo redemptor...

Dodixie > Hek

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-08-31 21:30:44 UTC
Lol you're drunk again xD
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2013-08-31 21:49:49 UTC
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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-31 21:56:39 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Lol you're drunk again xD

"Again?" Ha! Games are better with drinks and friends. Smile

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2013-08-31 22:16:50 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Lol you're drunk again xD

New idea...

Forum Breathalyzer

CCP will ship a simple USB powered breathalyzer to everyone with a current subscription.

Before posting in "sensitive areas" of the forums (to be designated by CCP) the user must use the breathalyzer to check if he/she is sober. Failing the sobriety check will result in a 1 day temp ban from the forum.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-01 07:54:14 UTC
Not sure why you think I'm drunk to suggest things that already have related things in the game?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#8 - 2013-09-03 08:45:14 UTC
There is such a thing as "balance" that requires you to make certain tradeoffs. Like having to fit a scrambler in order to prevent a MWD-fitted ship to escape your bubble. If you have a bubble that does both, why would you need to have a scram? Adding that would be dumbing down EVE to allow easier kills.
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#9 - 2013-09-03 09:14:45 UTC
Overpowered.

You're basically asking for the one counter to bubbles to be removed from bubbles, making bubbles uncounterable.
suid0
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-09-03 09:19:16 UTC
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones  - Commander Ted

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#11 - 2013-09-03 09:42:01 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Not sure why you think I'm drunk to suggest things that already have related things in the game?


People think you're drunk because your idea is unbalanced. The fact that you're claiming not to be drunk points disturbingly at you not being able to comprehend why your idea is bad whilst sober and in your right mind which should be at least mildly concerning for you.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-10-08 12:03:15 UTC
PopeUrban wrote:
Overpowered.

You're basically asking for the one counter to bubbles to be removed from bubbles, making bubbles uncounterable.

This was not an issue for the years prior to T3 ships being introduced. What's the problem?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-08 12:03:41 UTC
suid0 wrote:
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

'Cos they're cloaked and can just skip away while cloaked.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Motoko Innocentius
Domus Dei
#14 - 2013-10-08 12:10:11 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
suid0 wrote:
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

'Cos they're cloaked and can just skip away while cloaked.


How about you learn to decloak stuff rather than changing the game ? If you can't catch it, you were not supposed to catch it.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-10-08 12:12:45 UTC
Motoko Innocentius wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
suid0 wrote:
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

'Cos they're cloaked and can just skip away while cloaked.


How about you learn to decloak stuff rather than changing the game ? If you can't catch it, you were not supposed to catch it.

I don't know what you're trying to prove here with these assaults on my perceived skill, 'cos I don't even do bubble camps. I'm a structure shooting FC. It just seems like it would be consistent with already existing things. Attacking my perceived skill at decloaking T3 ships will avail you nothing, as I make no claim to be any good at it. How about we address the topic rather than the person suggesting it, yes?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Darling Hassasin
Parental Control
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#16 - 2013-10-08 12:33:01 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Motoko Innocentius wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
suid0 wrote:
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

'Cos they're cloaked and can just skip away while cloaked.


How about you learn to decloak stuff rather than changing the game ? If you can't catch it, you were not supposed to catch it.

I don't know what you're trying to prove here with these assaults on my perceived skill, 'cos I don't even do bubble camps. I'm a structure shooting FC. It just seems like it would be consistent with already existing things. Attacking my perceived skill at decloaking T3 ships will avail you nothing, as I make no claim to be any good at it. How about we address the topic rather than the person suggesting it, yes?


Is a structure shooting FC a nooblar in training to become a proper FC, or is it like a specialization you can not aspire to escape from?
Meytal
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-10-08 12:38:13 UTC
Dear reader, if you have read through this thread to this point, I wanted to take a moment to make this Public Service Announcement to let you know that you too can become a Structure Shooting FC. For only 19.95 ISK, we will send you the complete 12-step program guide, "How to be a Structure Shooting FC". Supplies are limited, so you must call now!
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-10-08 13:32:13 UTC
Darling Hassasin wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Motoko Innocentius wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
suid0 wrote:
Way too overpowered

Why don't you just fit a scram and use your mwd to go tackle them before they leave your bubble?

'Cos they're cloaked and can just skip away while cloaked.


How about you learn to decloak stuff rather than changing the game ? If you can't catch it, you were not supposed to catch it.

I don't know what you're trying to prove here with these assaults on my perceived skill, 'cos I don't even do bubble camps. I'm a structure shooting FC. It just seems like it would be consistent with already existing things. Attacking my perceived skill at decloaking T3 ships will avail you nothing, as I make no claim to be any good at it. How about we address the topic rather than the person suggesting it, yes?


Is a structure shooting FC a nooblar in training to become a proper FC, or is it like a specialization you can not aspire to escape from?

It's what I prefer. I've done many things, from frigates to Alpha Fleet. Shooting structures is fun for me. YMMV.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-10-08 14:01:12 UTC
As much as I'd like your idea Lyris, cause I love my dictors, I think this could be a far too strong tool ending with less pvp than the other way around.

Don't get me wrong I really love this idea but I can't also think about it without considering from the other side of the road.
That one becomes really nasty for any type of traveler, a death trap with no escape possibility but to fight back or expect to find dumb people throwing scramble probes.

Why not some sort of middle ground? -if probes duration is 90sec make them scramble 15sec then disrupt like usually -hard coders hillinesses incoming
I don't really see a true positive effect on the long term. But it's probably just me.

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HardRockLife
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
#20 - 2013-10-08 14:16:57 UTC
Meytal wrote:
Dear reader, if you have read through this thread to this point, I wanted to take a moment to make this Public Service Announcement to let you know that you too can become a Structure Shooting FC. For only 19.95 ISK, we will send you the complete 12-step program guide, "How to be a Structure Shooting FC". Supplies are limited, so you must call now!

If I call in the next 5 minutes do i get a free Phoenix?
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