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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#161 - 2013-08-31 12:33:09 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
[quote=Lugalbandak]Wy would de base cargohold heavily nerfed? its freighter , it hauls large stuff. orca is something different.


So it wouldn't be able to haul packaged capital ships in to highsec after putting on a cargohold expander.

nope , i already explained , freighters could then fit all the modules except the cargo expanders , problem solved

and i ment your tear income

edit: meh wrong qoute


"hey guys, let's let cargo carrying ships fit all modules except cargo expanders"

no wonder i didn't get what you were saying, it's completely backwards.


No it got a huge base cargo bay , no need for extra cargo space , just tank or agile mods


Or you could get your buddy to double web you instead.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#162 - 2013-08-31 12:33:59 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
No it got a huge base cargo bay , no need for extra cargo space , just tank or agile mods

It also has a huge hull buffer. No need for extra tank.

That just leaves agility mods, and if that's all you want to be able to fit, why not just ask them to improve the agility of the thing?
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#163 - 2013-08-31 12:33:59 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
[quote=Lugalbandak]Wy would de base cargohold heavily nerfed? its freighter , it hauls large stuff. orca is something different.


So it wouldn't be able to haul packaged capital ships in to highsec after putting on a cargohold expander.

nope , i already explained , freighters could then fit all the modules except the cargo expanders , problem solved

and i ment your tear income

edit: meh wrong qoute


"hey guys, let's let cargo carrying ships fit all modules except cargo expanders"

no wonder i didn't get what you were saying, it's completely backwards.


He's a renter, they don't really know what's going on.


a after the spelling comments , we get the renting comments. +1 for you

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Dave Stark
#164 - 2013-08-31 12:34:20 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
[quote=Lugalbandak]Wy would de base cargohold heavily nerfed? its freighter , it hauls large stuff. orca is something different.


So it wouldn't be able to haul packaged capital ships in to highsec after putting on a cargohold expander.

nope , i already explained , freighters could then fit all the modules except the cargo expanders , problem solved

and i ment your tear income

edit: meh wrong qoute


"hey guys, let's let cargo carrying ships fit all modules except cargo expanders"

no wonder i didn't get what you were saying, it's completely backwards.


No it got a huge base cargo bay , no need for extra cargo space , just tank or agile mods


if you need agility or tank, may i suggest training the relevant skills instead of asking ccp to massively recode the game in completely backwards ways to achieve the same thing?
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#165 - 2013-08-31 12:35:16 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
No it got a huge base cargo bay , no need for extra cargo space , just tank or agile mods

It also has a huge hull buffer. No need for extra tank.

That just leaves agility mods, and if that's all you want to be able to fit, why not just ask them to improve the agility of the thing?


nope , gonna fit the nuke bomb from harry

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bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#166 - 2013-08-31 12:35:46 UTC
I agree with op. Not that i am against ganking (i did some), but freighter are easy prey. I'd say, give them a low slot. If the pilot is a moron, he will fit a cargo expander (...) and if he has any brain, he will fit a damage control. I do not buy a freighter because even if it is empty, someone WILL gank it someday for the lol.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#167 - 2013-08-31 12:36:42 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Bring logi.


Either you have no idea at all, what you are talking about or you are a bald faced liar, flat out trolling people.

Lugalbandak wrote:

So it wouldn't be able to haul packaged capital ships in to highsec after putting on a cargohold expander.

nope , i already explained , freighters could then fit all the modules except the cargo expanders , problem solved

and i ment your tear income

edit: meh wrong qoute


In addition they could change packaged sizes of carriers and Dreads. This tired old excuse for not giving rigs and slots to Freighters died when they adjusted the M3 volume of a Cap ship assembly array because 2 of the freighters required freighter 5 to carry them.


They already did that in the first place to prevent freighters from hauling them in the first time.

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#168 - 2013-08-31 12:37:01 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
I agree with op. Not that i am against ganking (i did some), but freighter are easy prey. I'd say, give them a low slot. If the pilot is a moron, he will fit a cargo expander (...) and if he has any brain, he will fit a damage control. I do not buy a freighter because even if it is empty, someone WILL gank it someday for the lol.


thank you , a sane person here

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#169 - 2013-08-31 12:37:09 UTC
So much propaganda and misinformation in this thread it makes my head spin.
Dave Stark
#170 - 2013-08-31 12:38:32 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
I agree with op. Not that i am against ganking (i did some), but freighter are easy prey. I'd say, give them a low slot. If the pilot is a moron, he will fit a cargo expander (...) and if he has any brain, he will fit a damage control. I do not buy a freighter because even if it is empty, someone WILL gank it someday for the lol.


thank you , a sane person here


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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#171 - 2013-08-31 12:38:58 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
a after the spelling comments , we get the renting comments. +1 for you


Thanks, just wait until I park my guys in the system your corporation is renting.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2013-08-31 12:39:18 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:


make war decs instant then.

this removes suicide ganking and freighter pilots will be happy. right?

Lets remove reinforcement timers too. If you want to be able to instantly remove a 6 bill isk ship from somebody without warning let us remove your **** in null without your handholding timers. Oh wait that wouldnt be fair to YOU and EvE should be fair in null, just not high sec right :) you guys are sad

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#173 - 2013-08-31 12:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Lugalbandak wrote:

well then tey can make it easy , all the mods you fit , except the ******* damn cargo expanders. thats was not hard was it?

edit: BATTLE CHARON WHOEIIIIII

How would you tank a Charon?
The base stats are, excluding resists :
Shield 6000 HP
Armour 20000 HP
Structure 106250 HP
CPU 1.15
PG 1.15

You can't have low slots, because that would allow a cargo expander, which in turn allows the transport of packaged capships in highsec, it's unreasonable of you to expect CCP to do the work to prevent the fitting of a cargo expander to 1 class of ship. No low slots means no armour tank, and no Damage Control.

So you're left with mid slots, 6000 base HP on shield puts it somewhere between the base stats of a shield tanking BC and BS, however there's not enough CPU or PG to fit anything there.

So basically what you're asking for is for CCP to not balance, but completely rework freighters. All because people insist on stuffing the things to the brim, going afk, and autopiloting though chokepoint systems that are renowned for being gank alley.

I think that's somewhat unreasonable.

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#174 - 2013-08-31 12:40:34 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Or you could get your buddy to double web you instead.


Another Goon shitpost.

fleet and corp web creates a suspect flag so you need to sit on a gate with a timer, every gate and hold cloak in the forward system to run web ops now.

Current freighter defense is to pray.
Dave Stark
#175 - 2013-08-31 12:40:50 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


make war decs instant then.

this removes suicide ganking and freighter pilots will be happy. right?

Lets remove reinforcement timers too. If you want to be able to instantly remove a 6 bill isk ship from somebody without warning let us remove your **** in null without your handholding timers. Oh wait that wouldnt be fair to YOU and EvE should be fair in null, just not high sec right :) you guys are sad


i fail to see the relevance of reinforcement timers to this discussion.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#176 - 2013-08-31 12:43:54 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Or you could get your buddy to double web you instead.


Another Goon shitpost.

fleet and corp web creates a suspect flag so you need to sit on a gate with a timer, every gate and hold cloak in the forward system to run web ops now.

Current freighter defense is to pray.

Corp webs gain an aggression timer? So it's ok for me to explode my corpmates, but not web them? How does that work?

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#177 - 2013-08-31 12:46:13 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


They already did that in the first place to prevent freighters from hauling them in the first time.


And they can do it again.
Freighters are used to pad killboard ISK values. They don't do their job anymore.
Dave Stark
#178 - 2013-08-31 12:47:43 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


They already did that in the first place to prevent freighters from hauling them in the first time.


And they can do it again.
Freighters are used to pad killboard ISK values. They don't do their job anymore.


Tell me, do you believe what you're posting or are you trolling?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2013-08-31 12:47:57 UTC
They should make carriers blappable by a small gang of dessies. Thatd balance it up a bit. Imagine the tears lol

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#180 - 2013-08-31 12:48:53 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


They already did that in the first place to prevent freighters from hauling them in the first time.


And they can do it again.
Freighters are used to pad killboard ISK values. They don't do their job anymore.

Freighters still do their job fine, they can still haul very large volumes of cargo, in fact they can still haul the same volume of cargo as they did 2 years ago.

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